This week, Irene & Katrina chat with the immediate past President of the ADHA, Matt Crespin, MPH, RDH and kindly sponsored by our friends at Hu-Friedy. Who are celebrating dental hygienists during National dental hygiene month? #showusyourpurple all month and make sure to tag Hu-Friedy in your purple photos to be featured on their page.

Hu-Friedy is also sharing their new Harmony Scaler, Irene got a Harmony H6/H7 the day after this episode was recorded but she is super excited to try it out. The new handle design is a scientifically proven ergonomic hand scaler that reduces pinch force by up to 65% and pressure applied to the tooth by 37%. Increases patient comfort while reducing clinician fatigue.


In this episode, Matt shares his experience in advocacy and project management for community oral health, and how these roles provided opportunities to develop in leadership. Learn how he uses a childhood book to help physicians identify childhood literacy. 


We discussed how he evolved from working at his local component to the state level, then supporting at the national level as a delegate before finally deciding to take the plunge and campaign for President.  Join us as he shares the tipping point that brought him to stepping into ADHA Presidency.  We get a behind-the-scenes look at how Matt ran for President of the ADHA and how serving as President-Elect provided Matt with the coaching he needed to rise as President!


As President of the ADHA during the greatest global pandemic of our lifetime, Matt shares the importance of mentorship programs, vulnerability, learning from past experiences and accepting feedback.  We discuss leadership styles and professional relationships, as well as what Matt’s vision for dental hygiene will mean for us in this post-COVID era.  Finally, Matt reminds us that his growth mindset comes from a place of being comfortable with being uncomfortable.

Mic drop!


Stay tuned for our shout outs to some of our favourite ADHA members!




Matt Crespin, MPH, RDH

Associate Director

Children’s Health Alliance of Wisconsin

Matt received his Bachelor of Science Degree in Health Sciences/Dental Hygiene from Marquette University in 2002 and his Masters in Public Health from A.T. Still University in 2010. Prior to his promotion to Associate Director with Children’s Health Alliance of Wisconsin in 2011, Matt served as an oral health project manager at the Alliance from 2006-11. Prior to his work at the Alliance, Matt worked as a clinical dental hygienist in private practice for several years in the Milwaukee suburbs.


As associate director of the Alliance, Matt directs both the oral health and early childhood literacy programs along with providing operational support to the entire organization. The oral health program at the Alliance includes the Wisconsin Seal-A-Smile program, Wisconsin Medical-Dental Integration Project and the Wisconsin Oral Health Coalition. Wisconsin Seal-A-Smile is the state school-based dental sealant program and has grown under his direction to serve more than 80,000 children in 1,050 schools across Wisconsin. Matt has been successful in increasing funding at the Alliance through local, state and federal grants and partnerships. Matt’s advocacy efforts include successfully keeping several major Wisconsin cities fluoridated and leading a coalition of partners to increase settings where dental hygienists can work independently.   


Matt is a member of various local, state and national associations, advisory boards, councils and committees. Matt has been involved in creating, protecting and promoting oral health policy across Wisconsin and nationally through his work at the Alliance. Matt served as chair of the Children’s Dental Health Project’s Sealant Workgroup. Matt also served on the most recent expert panel convened by the American Dental Association to review the clinical guidelines for the placement of dental sealants published in 2016.


Since 2015 Matt has served on the Board of Trustees of the American Dental Hygienists’ Association. In 2019-20, Matt served as the first male President of ADHA in the association’s nearly 100-year history and currently still on the board as the Immediate Past President. Matt has served in various other board and committee roles at the state and national level for many years. Matt speaks and has been published nationally on a variety of topics including oral health workforce policy, school-based dental sealants, the use of dental sealants in clinical practice, community water fluoridation and the use of other fluoride-containing therapies.


Matt was featured in Modern Hygienist Magazine in 2007 in a feature on men making their mark in dental hygiene. Matt was named the Young Hispanic Professional of Greater Milwaukee by the Hispanic Professionals of Greater Milwaukee and received the Distinguished Alumnus in Dental Hygiene Award from Marquette University in 2009. In 2016, Matt received the Wisconsin Public Health Association’s Distinguished Service to Public Health Award and the Wisconsin Dental Hygienists’ Association Carol B. Benson Award for Outstanding Service to Dental Hygiene. In 2017 Matt was selected as one of “Six Dental Hygienists You Want to Know” by Dimensions of Dental Hygiene Magazine.  Matt currently lives in New Berlin, Wisconsin with his wife Laura and son Connor and enjoys camping, travelling and cycling.


Twitter: @CrispyRDH

Instagram: @CrispyRDH


Today we have a very special guest Ana Bogdanovic, who takes us on a trip down memory lane through the days of bottle service, breast cancer, and bespoke dental laboratory marketing. Ana comes from two extremely talented dental parents, but she wasn’t always convinced that dentistry was her path.

She had a degree in marketing and worked in the service industry (when she first met Irene!) founded a successful up and coming jewelry company, but wasn’t totally sure of where life would take her. At 24, Ana was diagnosed with breast cancer. While breast cancer at such a young age is almost unheard of, Ana tells us she would go through every minute of chemo again because of the person it has helped her become.

Fast forward to today: Ana Bogdanovic has successfully created the Zann Dental Lab brand and image. She has brought her marketing expertise to the dental laboratory world and made her mark in the field, offering personalized and frankly beautiful design to her lab and professional newsletter. She walks us through the steps of making this dental business into a reality and how she navigated the unsure times in her life and career.

Ana dispenses some radical wisdom and answers some important questions, including:

● How do we find our passion for dentistry?

● How can I make my dental brand special?

● Is cancer painful?

● How can we see the humanity in our patients?

● How can we exceed expectations as a dental professional?

Ana drops some serious knowledge about learning to love oneself while pursuing her career aspirations that remain true to who we are.

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The quadrants of a circle with Corey Jameson-Kuehl of Custom Dental Solutions.

This week, Irene and Katrina chat with Corey Jameson-Kuehl of Custom Dental Solutions kingly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. 


Join Irene and Katrina as they BOTH take the DS World stage. Register asap for November 13th to listen to world-class presentations and join the discussion groups. Head over to DentsplySirona.Com or click the hyperlink to register. 

Corey shares her journey as a dental hygienist who always felt a bit different and wanted to expand outside of clinical hygiene.  We talk about finding your “why”, using personality typing for match-making and emotional intelligence.

We discuss DISC Profiling:

Dominant: fast-paced, solution-oriented

Influence: magnetic, positivity

Steady: team-oriented, listeners

Compliance: analytical, fact-based

We talk about conflict resolution, understanding the various dimensions of how to control your own emotions as well as how to use DISC to communicate with patients.

Corey gives us the secret sauce on how to address conflict both professionally and personally as well as how to establish a well-rounded team. We learn about how to ensure Irene and her husband are both living their best life and … well… how to help Katrina in her sad dating life.

Finally, check out our tooth/dare for this week… to our listeners at home: would YOU accept this?


Corinne Jameson-Kuehl, RDH, BS has been involved in the business of dentistry for over 20 years.  She is an experienced dental business owner with background experiences as a private practice clinician, practice development administrator and previous dental staffing company founder and owner.

Corinne’s professional interests include writing articles and presenting continuing education to dental audiences across the nation.  She is the regional coordinator for the  Oral Cancer Foundation and was the 2016 recipient of the Sunstar Butler Award of Distinction.  Her professional memberships include: ADA, ADHA, Seattle Study Club, AADOM, AADH.  Along with Dental and Business education, Corinne holds numerous Human Resources certifications including DISC, Driving Forces and Emotional Intelligence to better ensure employment success!

Corinne and her team at Custom Dental Solutions provide “hands-on” practical business development and proven solutions to owners of small businesses focusing mainly on private practice dental offices.  It brings her great reward to see her clients navigate changes successfully in their personal and professional lives.




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Custom Dental Solutions Instagram


They are salty, packed with nutrition… and they are delicious!  Why are we talking about Peanuts?  Check out this week’s episode in which Irene & Katrina chat with Pediatric guru Dr. Jeanette MacLean Kindly Sponsored by our peeps at Dentsply Sirona! 

DID you know DS World 2020 has gone virtual? With this epic lineup of speakers, you don't want to miss out on the chance to see all your fav peeps in one place. 

Register to hear Irene AND Katrina speak among a ton of other amazing speakers this coming November.


We talk all things Jazzercise (yes, you read that right), “designer snacks” and challenges with integrating fluoride into a pediatric office. 

Dr. MacLean talks about her service trips out of the country, the joys of seeing her patients grow up, watching “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” while working and bringing in the comedy to dentistry. 

We discuss the indications for referral to a pediatric dentist, ways to improve the pediatric patient experience, looking at unique “parenting” styles and how to chat with an anti-fluoridationists.

She throws down on minimally invasive dental procedures: diet & hygiene counselling, motivational interviewing and reducing trauma during the dental appointment.  She shares what’s trending right now in pediatric dentistry, specifically SDF and Glass Ionomer. 

If you haven’t read an article she’s written or heard her speak before, you’re missing out!  Check out Dr. Jeanette MacLean:  Dr. Jeanette MacLean is a Diplomate of the American Board of Pediatric Dentistry, Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry, owner of Affiliated Children’s Dental Specialists in Glendale, Arizona, and mother of two.  She received her dental degree, with honours, from the University of Southern California in 2003 and completed her specialty training in pediatric dentistry in 2005 at Sunrise Children’s Hospital through the University of Nevada School of Medicine.  Dr. MacLean has become an internationally recognized advocate and expert on minimally invasive dentistry, appearing in newspapers, magazines, television, and continuing education lectures on this hot topic.  Most notably, she was featured in the July 2016 New York Times article “A Cavity Fighting Liquid Helps Kids Avoid Dentists’ Drills,” which brought national attention to the option of treating cavities non-invasively with silver diamine fluoride.

 Thanks to SDF and GIC she no longer even offers in-office IV sedation!! :-). Learn more:





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This episode of the tooth or dare podcast is brought to you by our awesome peeps @ Dentsply Sirona! Shouts to DS and their amazing collaborations with podcasts and educational events like THE ULTIMATE PERIO SYMPOSIUM.  Register for this amazing program.   Check out the 9 hour CE our friend Katrina is delivering alongside Joy Raskie. These ladies will be unpacking a ton of info on how to implement advanced periodontal therapies in your everyday general practices. 

This episode the ladies of the TOD podcast interview Edgar the OG gangster @guygienist. Edgar is so cool, fun, smart and has devoted his entire career to educating dental assistants in the navy. Edgar is newly retired and shares what it takes to be an educator in such a unique dental hygiene scope of practice. 

Edgar shared a twist to his career with the TOD ladies. 

Tune in to hear his story and be sure to give him a like and follow on Instagram. If you're interested in learning more about his career path Edgar is always a DM away. 

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This episode was recorded LIVE at Greater NY in 2020 at the RDH Magazine Booth and due to our host being delayed we had an amazing co-host Amber Auger @amberaugerrdh step in. Her second time on the podcast!

This Episode is generously sponsored my our friends at Dentsply Sirona who are going strong with re-releasing webinars.
Recently Irene has been on an implant maintnance kick and watched an awesome webinar by Dr. Timothy Donley.
Cluck on the link below to learn more about implant maintnance and peri-implantitis
-------> Click here for Dr. Donley dropping knowledge <--------- The ladies talk fitness with Hadeer Scolaro, @fitlittlehygienist, a dental hygenist from New Jersey who helps promote health and wellness amongst the dental community. She emphasizes consistency at the gym, the power of breakfast, and gives a run down of her diet.

Irene uses for her nutritional meal prepping.

All three of us use the Myfitnesspal app.

Amber goes through the basics of Orange Theory workouts which Irene has since started but sadly Covid has crushed her spirits.

The power of eating and moving to help the longevity of this field of work.

Irene shares a secret about how to determine the amount of sugar in a bottle of wine, fun fact that has become super useful to many people in her lectures.

We finish off by asking Hadeer some rapid fire questions and a classic game of Tooth or Dare Followed by a very amazing Dare that was seen my hundreds of people on the show floor.

We ask Irene General Questions such as:

 Irene answers Dr. Costes’ questions about the business of dentistry:

  • What did the buildout cost?

    • HUGE shout out to Patterson Dental, Hu-Friedy and Dentsply Sirona for their amazing support!
  • How did you apply for a business loan?
  • We discuss business plans and profitability.  Mark and Irene geek out on practice management software.
  • Learn why you need to include an accountant/financial planner and an attorney in business development.

 We talk about how Irene is building out her office:

  • Irene discloses how much of a nerd she is by sharing “I live and breathe PowerPoint and Excel”. 
  • We discuss her “mood board” including a coffee bar!
  • We discuss equipment, including how Irene is changing the legislation around

We get provocative: thoughts from a dentist on a hygienist opening her own office.  Is there a territorial concern there?  And finally, Irene shares her one piece of advice for RDHs who are thinking of starting their own practice. 

You do NOT want to miss Dr. Mark Costes’ final words to us.  It truly reminds us of the WHY behind our work.  Thank you endlessly to our co-host, Dr. Mark Costes, for sharing insight and for drilling (pun intended) Irene on her business plan. 


Dr. Mark Costes is far from a typical dentist and dental coach. During his career, he has been able to start or acquire over a dozen successful dental practices during some of the profession’s most challenging times. But Dr. Costes’s journey was not without its setbacks. In fact, he credits much of his success to the fact that he made more mistakes in his first year of private practice ownership than most dentists make in an entire career. What separated him from the masses, however, was the fact that he viewed each failure and roadblock as a learning experience and an opportunity to improve his business and life. This philosophy, as well as his decision to model the world’s most successful entrepreneurs and dentists, has led him to where he is today.

Dr. Costes is an international keynote speaker and the founder of the Dental Success Institute, a company committed to helping dentists to achieve their full potential while recapturing their passion for dentistry. He is also the co-founder and CEO of the Dental Success Network, a vibrant community of dentists from around the globe focused on maximizing access to advanced clinical and practise management education to the profession. Dr. Costes is the International and #1 Amazon Best Selling Author of the book Pillars of Dental Success. His internet radio show, The Dentalpreneur Podcast now has listenership from over 150 countries worldwide. Mark and his wife Leslie have three sons; Bryce, Brendan, Brady and their dog Bear. They live in Prescott, AZ.

Dr. Howard Farran DDS, MBA

Another epic recorded live at Voices of Dentistry and kindly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. DS has been consistent and amazing in providing continuing education online while we have all struggled with being home due to COVID. Here are some links to complimentary CE that Katrina will be doing in the coming weeks generously sponsored by Dentsply Sirona. 

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We go back in time with the sometimes absurd, mostly irreverent, and always hilarious Howard

Farran DDS, MBA and talk through his career to discover how he became the dentist he is

today. The man needs no introduction, but I’ll give one anyway. Dr. Farran is the founder & CEO

of Dentaltown, Orthotown, Hygienetown, an International lecturer, and the host of one of the

most-listened-to dentistry podcasts, Dentistry Uncensored.

Dr. Howard Farran opened his first dental office in Phoenix, Arizona right out of college with no

patients, no mentor, and no nearly no money. He lays out exactly how a dentistry grad can build

a business from the ground up in a city they’ve never even visited. The dental business guru

answers our burning questions about his work such as:

● How do you build a dedicated following?

● How do you make money off a podcast?

● How do you get guests?

● How can I land more speaking gigs?

● What does a Polish man give his wife on their wedding night that’s long and hard?

Dr. Farran has built a brand with his strong business sense and an entirely profane sense of

humour. He is a great example of how folks in the industry can build a business alongside their

work as a hygienist or dentist while staying true to themselves.


Find Howard Farran online:

IG: @HowardFarran

FB: @HowardFarran



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Martelle Coke, RDH is the founder and CEO of BrownGirl RDH. She shares the remarkable true story of her upbringing, which was spent in hotels, her mother selling crack to feed ten children. Martelle was responsible for raising her younger siblings. She knew from a young age that dentistry was her dream job. She worked toward that goal while raising five children, facing medical issues, and suffering physical and emotional abuse. She successfully became an RDH and started her own non-profit in spite of massive racial inequality and financial hardship.

Martelle created BrownGirl RDH, a non-profit organization promoting cultural diversity within the dental hygiene field, in April 2018. Her entrepreneurial spirit seems to arise out of a deep sense of compassion to offer assistance to people who have struggled in the same ways she did. She started the business completely out of pocket, offering scholarships with her own money. She now offers 12 scholarships a year, based on need, with no deadline attached. She hopes to increase that number to 24 scholarships a year.

As stated on, statistics show that minorities represent less than 4% of dental hygienists. Martelle speaks about attending dental conferences and counting the few black and brown bodies in a sea of white people. She points out how black speakers at these very events are paid less than their white counterparts.

Systemic racism pervades the dental industry. We are so thankful to Martelle Coke for coming on and telling her story, and helping us understand how we can become more impactful allies to friends and colleagues of colour in our lives and in our work.

The Tooth or Dare podcast sees you, hears you and stands with you. BLACK LIVES MATTER 

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The Hygiene Gangster

Live from Voices of Dentistry: Kindly supported by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. 

DS has released a new section to its website titled "Managing Aerosols" This resource provides great information on things like

  1. Possible transmission routes of COVID-19 in a dental office

  2.  Aerosols generated by handpieces and ultrasonic scaling – current recommendations

 Principles of blocking possible transmission routes in a dental office

Further here is the link to the webinar Katrina mentioned- Pump Up the Volume! A Multi-Layered Strategy for Effectively Managing Aerosols


Melissa Sottosanti AKA The Hygiene Gangster. On this episode

of the Tooth or Dare Podcast, Melissa, a badass entrepreneur and dental hygienist, shares her

dental journey and how she built a brand and started her own business while working as an

RDH. Her website is the result of years of work learning graphic

design and business ownership. She is currently developing classes for budding entrepreneurs

in the dental industry and is in the process of publishing two children's books! She is a singular

personality and her brand speaks true to who she is.

The Hygiene Gangster shares the origin story of her name and business. She answers many of

our questions such as:

● How do you build an authentic brand?

● How should one create a business?

● What the hell is an LLC and why do I need one?

Melissa is a terrific example of how to combine one’s own interests to live a fulfilling creative and

professional career. Her advice for creative souls: Write down what you want to do, and do it, on

the side, at night, take a class. You avoid burnout in your career and build something along the



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This is a very special episode. 

Dr. Alan mean is an open book with us about his drug and alcohol use as a practicing dentist, he shares where it started, how it progressed and the details about getting and staying sober. 

This episode is not your classic Irene/Katrina episode slightly off-brand but a necessary topic we probably can all relate to in some way shape or form. 

To reach out to Dr. Alan Mead:


Facebook: Dental Hacks Nation

Instagram: @Dentalhack_al

Much thanks to our buddy Alan for sharing his personal info with us. He is always there for a good chat so feel free to slide into his DM's. He is one of the best humans we know. 

If you want to meet the man in real life, check out Voices of Dentistry and come by to attend the awesome conference. 

Amanda, a deaf dental hygenist, started her career as an NFL cheerleader. She appeared on MTV's
True Life for pursuing a role as a professional cheerleader. She cheerleaded for a soccer team in Baltimore
until ultimately landing a cheerleading position with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Northern Virginia Community College offered Amanda guidance and hands on help to ameliorate the difficulties of being a deaf person in hygeine school.

The ladies talk about finding the perfect dental home when moving to a new town and failing boards exams and the difference in examiners from test to test.
Irene found Amanda's instagram account the night before we recorded this super last min episode where Katrina wasn't even a co-host yet!
Here is the link to the photo we mentioned on Amanda's Instagram account that made Irene KNOW, we needed to share her story.

Amanda shares with us her journey of triumphs and defeats in the dental world
 as well as a very special announcement about her family!

She also shares how hygenists can best accomodate for dental patients that are deaf.

"I encourage people to break down the barriers. There's no reason for anything to hold them back. Life can be easy." -Amanda

Videos about her Journey:
Blog: ig: @that.deaf.girl

Here are some awesome FREE CE courses to tune into brought to you by Dentsply Sirona: 

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations - Are you in Compliance?

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations – Are you in Compliance? - Part 2


What is up PEEPS! This week we had the pleasure of chatting with an RDH living legend. Jo-Anne Jones is a household name in the CE world. Fellow Canadian and a huge advocate for dental hygiene, oral health awareness and isn't afraid to have the word SEX in a lecture title. 

This episode was recorded during dental hygiene week in Canada and smack in the middle of Oral Cancer awareness month. 

Jo-Anne has some amazing knowledge to drop on oral cancer screening tools and has worked with some awesome companies that provide solutions to all dental peeps. One in particular that Irene is now obsessed with called Throat Scope. A super affordable resource for anyone to use chairside that will assist with providing better lighting for our intraoral assessments. 

Throat Scope should be in all of our ops - Irene's humble opinion.  check out the link to view some awesome photos on how the product works. 

In this episode Jo-Anne share some "must do" oral cancer screening methods for every dental person out there. Irene struggles with directions as per usual. 

To contact Jo-Anne Jones visit: 

Instagram: @jjlifeandtimes

Facebook: jo-anne jones

Her epic articles and future speaking engagements are all on her website:



Dr. Erin Elliott - Changing the Way People Breathe (and Sleep!)

Kindly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona and recorded live at Voices of Dentistry!

In this episode, Irene and Katrina chat about the importance of staying up with CE during this downtime from private practice. Irene watched an awesome webinar about how to handle a global pandemic. 

Here are some awesome FREE CE courses to tune into brought to you by Dentsply Sirona: 

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations - Are you in Compliance?

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations – Are you in Compliance? - Part 2


Instagram: @erinelliottdds


Podcast: The ZZZ Pack


Are you or a loved one not getting the sleep they deserve? This episode will give you some wow moments about airway and breathing issues. 

This week we are thrilled to invite Dr. Erin Elliott to the show. Dr. Elliott specializes in dental

sleep medicine. She has spearheaded a movement in dentistry to help dentists and patients

identify the signs of Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) and eliminate the myriad problems caused

by this condition.


In this podcast, Dr. Erin Elliott answers tons of our questions such as:

● Can a dentist diagnose sleep apnea?

● Should a dentist or RDH tell a patient if they are at risk for broader medical conditions?

● What are the telltale signs of sleep apnea?

● Is there a special checklist a dental hygienist can use to help identify obstructive sleep


● Could melatonin be a cause of sleep apnea?

We are pleased to present to the dental community:


The Elliott Evaluator is linked below and can be found on our website

Dr. Elliott has created a visual checklist for all dental peeps to help identify signs of sleep


Click here to download Dr. Erin Elliott's checklist for sleep signs in the mouth. 

Click the link above, print it out, and use it in your practice!


What to look for when identifying sleep apnea:

● Bruxing wear (treating the airway makes bruxing events go down)

● Scalloped tongue

● Airway swelling

● Acid Reflux


The Big 4: If a patient has a history of these, they are at risk for OSA:

● Hypertension

● Acid Reflux medication

● Anti-depressants

● Diabetes medication


Dental hygienists have an opportunity to make a life-changing difference to the health and

the well-being of patients by asking patients these simple questions. Hygienists can be powerful

educators in the time they spend by the patients’ side.


Dr. Erin Elliott’s Links:

Dr. Erin Elliott's webinar will give you an overview of dental sleep medicine and how you can

improve your patients' health and quality of life.



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Dr. Brian Harris



DM him even with 435K followers he checks every message!

Everyone goes through the shift in dentistry where they wonder what they want to do;

for Dr. Harris, it was smile design.

His wife helped him trailblaze an avenue for his social media presence, she said: "if this is what

you like, it's what you should do." Women are wise!


After Dr. Harris started branching out and doing consults via Instagram, People started reaching out

and he started virtual consults which became a very popular way of doing

smile design. His life changed after this as people started organically reaching out

through word of mouth referrals. He found a way to show what he was great at and people responded. He grew his practice

in this way through word of mouth referrals. The success was such that he started Smile Virtual.

Smile Virtual is a certification course where Dr. Harris consults dentists on how exactly to build an online

presence to build the practice that they want using video consultation software that he has created.


Some topics we cover with Dr. Harris' path in dentistry:

- So many dentist's miss out on being social on social media. It gives them a

chance to market to a huge audience of millennials.

- Dr. Brian Harris started giving digital consults for smile construction via Instagram

- His background at Arizona State and grew up in a family of dentists

- The day to day of his dental practice, how he shifted from general dentistry to only doing smile design cases.

- How and why you should always tell a patient if they are not a good fit. You should be honest with a patient if you feel it

won't work out. 

- It's not about the money, but it's about the people, but it’s also about the money.



Dr. Brian Harris leaves us with a powerful message:
"If you have a good idea, it should be explained in 15 minutes. Don’t make it boring as F***."

We felt this was the perfect episode to drop in light of the current global events. It was a perfect depiction of how the world is adapting to a digital approach.
Our generous friends at Dentsply Sirona sponsored this live episode at Voices of Dentistry and feel the same way about going digital and allowing us to connect.
In this episode, we discuss what we ought to be doing and using when treating patients. This episode is dedicated to all the RDH perio slayers working right now.
Perhaps we all have learned lessons about risk management for ourselves and patients.

The product we discussed is the PureVac high volume evacuation system. Perhaps a good addition to your practice.
Here are some great resources to use that discusses how this product reduces aerosols exponentially AND provides a truly ergonomic way to using an HVE very different than the conventional systems.

I like this youtube video that shows how it's used and the benefits of HVE vs. standard suction

Katrina video with PureVac! 

Instagram: @restoredsmiles

Jedidiah Huss joins us to talk about his work as a dental surgeon and teacher. He has private practices in Westlake Village and Moorpark, if you’re in the area, go see Dr. Huss! & Live from the Orapharma booth @ GNY Dr. Huss got popular on instagram posting his implant surgeries online. He takes photos and videos of his patients as he performs surgery on them. Combining social media, dentistry and education. It isn’t as simple as it looks. Dr. Huss shares some advice about how he makes it all work for him and how he uses his instagram as an educational tool. Dr. Huss does work with the Brighter Way non-profit foundation created “to provide comprehensive oral health care for vulnerable adults, children, veterans, those experiencing homelessness, and individuals with special needs.” He teaches practical, hands-on courses to help dentist’s learn new oral surgeries on his website:

Preferences for surgery: -Guided vs. Unguided -Cone beam?

Irene speaks on her writing process Dr. Huss talks about taking a step back to enjoy the impact of the work dental surgeons do. Giving people a chance to change Erin Huss, his wife, writes comedic mystery fiction! Find her at Jedidiah Huss dares Irene to do yoga poses on the Greater New York convention floor.


Dr Joshua Austin 
ig: @joshuaaustindds
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Dr. Gina Dorfman ig: @DrGinaD

Our friends Dr. Joshua Austin and Dr. Gina Dorfman join us on Tooth or Dare, today!

Both Josh and Gina own dental practices and run their own dental podcasts.

Gina’s podcast, Behind the Smiles, focuses on dental practice management and clinical topics. On her show, she hosts interviews the best of the best in the dentistry biz.

Josh’s podcast, Working Interferences Dental Podcast, covers topics that the average dentist faces. No question is too controversial on Working Interferences. Listen to their latest episode with our very own host, Irene! Episode 102: Fireball Scope with Toothlife.Irene

Irene is at the “shave my head” moment of opening her new dental practice in Toronto and gets some advice from these industry experts.

Gina's approach is old school: She has come to the understanding that the good work and care you provide in your office will translate to great reviews and happy patients. She has curated a presence in her community that does not rely on internet marketing. An efficient office structure has led to the organic growth of her practice and how she created Yapi, a digital practice managmane tool with cloudbased charts and easy to use forms.

Josh shares with us the newest tool he has been using called Schedule Widget that helped him gain 78 new patients in 8 months. He values ease of booking on the patient side, advocating for multiple ways for people to book appointments that cater to different types of people. When it comes down to the basics of running a dental practice, Dr. Austin advises, "Value peoples time, if we run on time, patients are thrilled. Efficiency differentiates us... Make it as easy as possible for people to sign up and be easy to work with."

We talk meditation, relaxation, not shaving your head, and what to do if and when nothing goes according to plan.

Irene shares a truth she recently has adapted “Other people’s opinion of you is none of your business”

Live @ VOD sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. 
Huge shoutouts to Allison Zora who came in for the save with
3 glasses of wine and cookies during this recording live in Arizona.
WIrene is doing a Dentsply Giveaway on her instagram @Toothlife.Irene
this week of the new Neuphro Freedom Polisher and some cool stuff,
Don't miss out go check out the giveaway!
This Episode features two very amazing people that have some advice
for Irene who is a few weeks out from opening her first practice.
She's currently struggling with hiring staff and creating a
professional vibe in the office. Irene and Katrina have some serious questions for our two amazing guests.

Our first guest is Chris Sallerno, Editor in Chief of Dental Economics Magazine

Practice management event article by Irene about her trip to the Principals of Practice Managment Course

Chris is a general dentist practicing in Melville, Long Island. He shares the low-down on opening a practice, the fear of opening
a new practice and gives Irene some pointers for opening her new dental practice.

His advice for those opening their first practice include: -When to book patients -Common mistakes of opening -Who to hire for a new practice -HIRE SLOWLY, FIRE QUICKLY -How to write job descriptions -How to interview

Business Plans are an essential part of opening a practice.

Chris uses the business model canvas by Osterwalder

How and why to consider a target market

Find Chris on instagram @the_curious_dentist

---------------------------------- Our second guest is Missy Fryer, who owns a practice with her husband.
Missy has some out of the ordinary, yet extremly effective interviewing
techniques that she shares with us in this episode!

Irene talks about the excitment of opening her own new practice and the hiring process.

Missy goes through her essential criteria and the entire process of hiring for a dental practice.

-She shares with the ladies her simple math problem she asks everyone she hires to her practice. -Missy and her husband opened a practice outside of Cleveland, Ohio and operate a website where they consult on how to properly run a practice smoothly. -She demonstrates the importance of spelling on applications -Missy says You need your systems written down so that staff can be uniformly trained.

Find more of Missy's spreadsheets, advice, and information on how to run a dental office at
Follow her on Instagram @Buckeyeproductions

Thanks for tuning in peeps
your friends
@Toothlife.Irene and @thedentalwinegenist


HUGE shout outs to:
1. Our besties at Dentsply Sirona for sponsoring this episode AND bringing Irene to Arizona!
2. Our friends in the managment department of Voices of Dentistry
(Alan and Jason) thanks for supporting the Ginger/Canadian Podcast team.
2. Thanks to the bartenders at the Hilton Hotel in Scottsdale- Respect.

Dr. Danny Domingue DDS is the host of the AAID podcast and runs a
private practice in LA. When he is not making mission trips to Mexico,
pulling teeth for free, he is 3D printing dental and auricular prostheses
like a #BOSS
On this episode Dr. Domingue relates a harrowing story about his
reconstruction of a prosthetic, 3D printed ear for a man who suffered
a work-related injury.
He talks us step by step exactly how he performed this landmark surgery
using his experience as a dental prosthetic surgeon.
He is in the process of submitting his own guide on how to 3D print
material for this surgery and a paper on Guided auricular implant replacement.

Find out more about Dr Domingue and get information about attending
dental mission trips with him at Implants Black and White facebook group OR at

Find him on instagram and follow his surgeries at: @implantdiplomate

This episode recorded live at Greater New York with the men behind The Dental Hacks podcast, Facebook group, Voices of Dentistry, Laminated 1992 book about social media and various tutorial videos about feeding farm animals. 

Sitting down with these two is always a delight and super informative for podcast newbies like us. 

Graciously sponsored by our new podcast partners at Dentsply Sirona. We are very excited for 2020 and all of the awesome episodes we will be able to bring your way with their support. 

In this episode Irene shares her first secret temp story about new Cavitron inserts with a twist, making them work efficiently in a Cavitron unit literally fabricated in 1985, the same year Irene was born. Is this really a thing? Are we not in 2020 and should we seriously still be using units that are held together with electrical tape? If this is happening to you PLEASE post a pic and tag us in it, are we alone or are there others out there suffering like Irene did on that very cold winters day. 

Slide into your docs emails with this link, a subtle hint that "it's time". 

Join Irene and Katrina next weekend at Voices of Dentistry and use promo code Toothordare to get your ticket (reg 997) for only $650. This event is epic and super fun, 11 hours of CE, lunch included both days, Friday night party and networking event among some of the coolest names in dentistry all hanging out in beautiful Arizona. 


Click here to teleport to the registration page. 

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The Tooth or Dare podcast officially welcomes Katrina as co-host recorded live at Greater New York dental meeting despite Irene calling it 3 other names. We chat about:
-Katrina's life from prepubescence through being a theatre nerd in high school all
the way to becoming a hygienist/level 1 sommelier
-Rapid-fire questions: airplane fart, fear of pooping pants in public, biggest accomplishment (wait for the bloopers at the end!) terrified to leave teaching position, left 9-year S.O.
-The wine industry is still a very male-dominated

Slide in to those DM's for your questions: 

Irene: @Toothlife.Irene on Instagram and Facebook

Katrina: @TheDentalWINEgenist on Instagram and Facebook

Podcast: @ToothorDare.Podcast on Instagram and Facebook

Email us:



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This weeks episode was recorded live in Eleuthera Bahamas. 

Dedicated to the amazing men and woman who brought their true rockstar A game to treat the amazing people in the community. 

Irene went on a dental mission hosted by the GloGood foundation, Twice and Let Love Rule foundation. The Levine family and Lenny Kravitz have spent the last 5 years providing love and care to the local people of this beautiful place who have no access to local dental and medical care. 

The amalgamation of over 100 clinicians and volunteers assembled from all over the world to provide amazing smile transformations that truly warmed our hearts and frankly were life changing for me. 

To help this cause click on the links below to donate and make sure to follow along on their growth and journey literally changing smiles. 



@Twice @GloGoodFoundation

Cody: @Levicii

Julian: @Julianjameslevine

Dr. Jonathan Levine: @drjonlevine

A bittersweet announcement: Whitney aka @teethtalkgirl is retiring from co-hosting the podcast.  She sends warm gratitude to all of our supportive listeners and wants everyone to “keep spreading the happiness & positive toothy vibes” so for this episode we are highlighting some of the amazing guests we have had, happy memories and inspiration we have had over the last 12 months. 

 Whitney is handing over the co-hosting torch to Katrina Saunders aka @thedentalwinegenist!  

Welcome Katrina, we are excited to have you join the podcast and continue the tooth or dare podcast! 

ALSO... Tooth or Dare has been nominated for the best dental podcast of 2019! we need your votes. Please send in your vote to help the podcast reach number 1, currently in 3rd place!

Click HERE to submit your vote. It's super easy and will take all but 10 seconds to vote.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dental Peeps! This is a very special episode and we have some big news for you all but firstly we would like to thank our friends @Hu-Friedy for sponsoring this episode and all of the episodes Whitney and I have recorded in the past 12 months together!

I just want to take a moment to thank Hu-Friedy for creating an awesome community for hygienists. The Friends of HF community is growing so rapidly!

I've been having fun reading the latest group posts.
Big fan of the product recommendations group and the largest group there with 45k members about Hu-Points. Helping each other get higher rankings. I'm striving to be Canine Champion.
The highest ranking... and you get a 30K ultrasonic insert which is an amazing product.

Irene: I saw them make them when I did a factory tour. Each insert is hand made and inspected and tested at every phase of assembly. It’s a really amazing process peeps!

Other things you will find on the FOHF platform include:
Courses and Certifications
Connect with Pros and Peers

And you can access anywhere, anytime, Personalized just for you and with your Engagement earn Hu-Points for free stuff!

Visit to join the tribe!


Welcome to another episode of Tooth or Dare with Podcast! 

WE NEED YOUR VOTES Please click here to vote for us as the 2019 podcast of the year! 

This week Irene has dedicated this episode to Emily Boge! She's amazing! 

@Joycethedentist is amazing, Started her Instagram to grow her beautiful practice and since then has started a vlog, created an e-book for dentists AND now has a cute TikTok account! 

Visit her Instagram RIGHT HERE to follow her and read her feature in Incisal Edge Magazine as she made 40 under 40 in dentistry! 

Huge thanks to 3M for Sponsoring this week’s episode and giving us a cool spot to record live at CDA!This week's product spotlight was developed to help patients who suffer from xerostomia.

Irene wrote a cool scientific article in the Dental Economics Magazine in the November Issue that talks all about early identification of dry mouth and salivary gland dysfunction. 

3M offers a suite of products to tackle xerostomia from multiple angles. First, there is the 3M Xerostomia Relief Spray, which is a lipid-based solution designed to limit water loss, moisten, and lubricate the entire oral cavity.

This is a prescription product that can be dispensed directly out of the office or your doctor can write a prescription and send it directly to a specialty pharmacy. Many patients like to use Theramints, which are 100% xylitol-sweetened mints to stimulate their saliva throughout the day.

I strongly recommend high-risk patients have an in-office varnish with Vanish 5% sodium fluoride white varnish can be used every 3 to 6 months. Helps with sensitivity relief by releasing fluoride, calcium and phosphate for up to 24 hours.

 Lastly send a patient home with Clinpro 5000, a high-fluoride toothpaste, containing their patented functionalized tri-calcium phosphate. This can be prescribed for patients to use at least once a day for caries prevention.

To learn more about 3M’s suite of products to help with xerostomia, like Clinpro 5000, Theramints, Vanish Varnish and Xerostomia Relief Spray visit


Hey there dental peeps and for the RDH's out there thanks for tuning into another episode of the podcast! We are so thankful for you all! 

This episode is dedicated to our friend on Instagram aka @thewanderingtoothfairy. We love watching your passion for dentistry keep up the great work friend, so fun meeting you at CDA!

Our episode is sponsored by our friends @Hu-Friedy this week's featured product is the new HD Blackline mirror. Irene did a comparison video on her Instagram (CLICK HERE TO WATCH IT) showing the difference between the Blackline HD and a Rodium coated mirror.  Brighter, more ergonomic and less glare aka LIFE CHANGING. 

Want to register for Irene's Toronto Hu-Friedy Event? Click on the link below to register. It'll be tons of fun, try out some of the cool instruments shes demonstrated on her Instagram account and learn from the experts! Not to mention, you get instruments sharpened by the one and only @DiamondSharp! 


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This episode was recorded live at the Hu-Friedy booth at CDA, we had so much fun at the booth so thank you to Hu-Friedy for sharing your booth and doubling it as a recording space! 

This interview was with Dr.Chrystle Cu founder of CocoFloss 

She tells us all about how she started her business with her sister and how they are now killing the floss world and tradeshow world. Hiring her first employee and balancing the Dentists life with the Floss life! 

Thank you for sharing your story and for giving us floss alternatives to share with our patients! Make sure to follow them on Instagram and get their stuff in your practice! 


Hey there dental peeps and for the RDH's out there HAPPY DENTAL HYGIENE MONTH!

This episode is dedicated to our friend Summer Lewis aka boss babe and beautiful human. Thanks for being an inspiration to us all! 

Our episode is sponsored by our friends @Hu-Friedy and they are celebrating dental hygienists in the best way possible... WITH GIVEAWAYS! Check out their Instagram page for giveaways, one which ends TODAY Oct 17th- enter for a chance to win 3 Diamond Sharpening cards. Wear your purple on the 21st and post a pic to Instagram with the #showusyourpurple19 for a chance to win a trip to Whitney's home town of Chicago!

This episode is featuring the amazing Catrina Houston! aka @Catrina_houston on Instagram AND the podcaster behind @the.smileeffect Podcast

Catrina tells us about her podcast "turn pain into purpose" (the smile effect podcast) where she gets lots of her interview guest from goalcast (The best resource for advice, videos and motivation to help you realize your full potential.)

 On Facebook Catrina is the co-host of the molar report on facebook so check it out! 

As a writer for RDH MAG shes authored cool and inspiring articles like  "how high does a tree grow" linked HERE TO READ! Which Whitney said is one of her inspirations to start Teeth Talk Girl. Inspiring words from Catrina about always growing in the DH profession and the importance of "if you're not growing you're dying".  


Thanks everyone for tuning in! If you want to connect with us you can find us at the links below!

Irene aka @Toothlife.Irene on Instagram 

Whitney aka @Teethtalkgirl And on YouTube



Thank you dental peeps for tuning into another episode of The Tooth or Dare Podcast! This week we chat with the one and only Dr. Shana Hughes of @TheToothBooth! She's the Botox and filler QUEEN of Instagram sharing with us all the tips and tricks to fight this thing we call ageing. 

What are the ladies doing this week? @TeethTalkGirl is shooting some cool videos for you on her YouTube Channel and has revamped her website with an easy to use search option! See all your fav and new videos on her website ------> Teleport to the website here! 

Meanwhile @Toothlife.Irene is off to St. Johns Newfoundland to speak at the Canadian Dental Hygiene Association annual conference where she gets to cross off a #bucketlist item off her speaking goals list. She'll be streaming this LIVE on her Instagram Friday Morning! 

Thank you to our friends @Hu_Friedy for sponsoring another informative episode. This weeks highlighted instrument is the BRAND NEW HD Blackline Mirror - DIAMOND LIKE CARBON (DLC) COATED MIRROR! 

The durable black matte coating reduces the glare by up to 80% compared to a standard metal mirror head and handle. This helps to reduce strain and fatigue as the user does not need to adapt their viewing position due to unwanted shine.

The black color of the coating creates a distinct contrast between the instrument, the tooth and/or the surrounding tissue allowing for easy identification intraorally.

Whitney raps out some awesome stats about this product like:

113% reflection factor for exceptional image clarity. 38.5% brighter than rhodium coated mirror glass. 50% brighter than other front surface mirror glass. Hard to beat those stats! Brighter is always better! 

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Dr. Hughes is a wealth of knowledge and her sweet southern accent makes every word she says that much sweeter! Aside from her beautification tips like.. "how to prevent breakouts..." and "what pillow we should sleep on" Dr. Hughes is a really cool person. Her passions for dentistry drive deep into her evergrowing practice, when she's not drilling, filling or injection Dr. H has an adorable son that and a growing horse farm! 

Follow her on Instagram if you need to be reminded to wash your make brushes and whiten your teeth. Hang tight to see who does a Tooth or a Dare, it's going to be awesome! 


It isn't every day you get to interview a Unicorn... THEN it happens that Whitney is away and another unicorn comes to co-host! BONUS for Irene!

Shoutouts to our girl @Teethtalkgirl (Whitney) for celebrating a B-DAY this week! Eating cake to celebrate your girl!

Big props to Lance Timmerman (of Working Interferences Podcast) for loaning Dr. Joshua Austin (@joshuaaustindds) for an episode on TOD Pod. He will be returned unharmed and generally unchanged. Josh brings some of the Working Interferences charm and does a Reddit. Tossing in a "tough look" along with some of his classic Joshisms. 

OUT GUEST IS EPIC! You may know our bro @BloodyToothGuy from Instagram as the OG carpule art gangster. One of the first to showcase his full surgeries within a story post and definitely a gangster at all things surgical. 

In real life, he is JUST as epic and magical as his surgical interventions. We get to know him a little more personal and Dr. BTG answers your Instagram questions. He's a really cool dude with flair, style and lots of humour. 

This episode is dedicated to Dental Nerd Supremo... We don't know who you are but thank you for giving Tooth or Dare Podcast and Working Interferences Podcast a mutual review. 

Salute to the lady that did not plan on being in the dental field. Christina Luna is making us all proud of her amazing accomplishments. Find her on Instagram @beastingthebeauty

Randomly chosen for DA school in the military because she was determined to find a career and ultimately fell in love with it and after the military training went back to DH school herself.

Now working on the military reserve and private practice

Fast forward to her fitness workd she rocked as a selected contestant for titan games. 

Thank you to Hu-Friedy for sponsoring this episode with the amazing Christina Luna, don't forget to go and check out Friends of Hu-Friedy to earn the badges Irene mentioned in the episode. 



This episode is with the man you might know @Pat.the.Dentist from Instagram. 

Dedicated to a fellow co-worker and inspirational educator Stacey Jackson! Keep rocking and inspiring students girl, we need more educators like YOU!


Dr. Pat the dentist (LOL) is the founder of the account @people_in_healthcare who focuses on us peeps, those grinding it out in scrubs and doing awesome things in the health profession! Shoot them a DM for a feature or share a friends profile if they are doing awesome things and deserve a feature. 

Pat was (also born into a Romanian family btw) grew up in Cali, moved to Michigan for dental school and NOW lives in Las Vegas! In this episode, he talks about entry to dental school, interview vs. DAT scores and how to set yourself apart from other Dental School candidates. 

Shares some serious IG conspiracy theories and gives us a sneak-peek into why he loves the business side of dentistry as well as the healthcare part along with how glucagon will get your Instagram gluca-gone! 

The struggle of Instagram is real with overactive accounts that get reported and blocked! Dr. Pat shares his story! 

Welcome back dental peeps to another Episode of The Tooth or dare Podcast!

This weeks episode is sponsored by our friends at Hu-Friedy, Thanks for the support!
Hope you are all having a fantastic week so far! We are back to real life after RDH UOR!

OMG IT WAS SO AMAZING if you haven't gone to UOR you totally need to come to Denver next year. 

This episode is dedicated to our friend Rachel aka @The_PinkHygieniest

Whitney and Irene both hung out at the Hu-Friedy booth and Irene learned some cool stuff classic Irene fin facts about the Everedge 2.0 scalers and WHY they are Everedge 2.0 is 72% sharper out of the box.
The testing is super impressive. They use the instruments for 500 Strokes and then test it with specially calibrated silicone test sticks.

They do it on all aspects of the tip 3rd of the instrument and the stats are pretty impressive.
Go to to learn more about the science of the Everedge 2.0 scalers and see the cool testing process!

This weeks episode is with Dr. Jessica Emery. We all know her from Instagram and now Jessica is helping practices, dentists and dental team members learn how to grow their social media following with beautiful photos and marketing strategies. 

She carries a plethora of cellphones around daily to monitor her many accounts and the accounts of her clients! Based in Chicago, grew up in Boston this DDS was once an RDH! 

Her influence came from her mom who was also a Dentist and first trained as an RDH. Together they were the first mother-daughter that graduated from both hygiene school and dental school. 

If you want to check out Dr. Emery and her various accounts here they are, they are all beautiful and so well put together! 

@thedentaldiaries @dentalsoiree @soireestock @dentalgirlgang @sugarfixdentalloft @whitehauteteeth

 Dr. Jessica Emery gives some epic advice to all women in dentistry, how to handle negative vibes AND she also does a dare! 

Head over to @toothordare.podcast to watch the dare go down! 


Thank you to Dr. Emery and her team for joining us, hope to meet you in real life one day! 

Welcome back peeps to another episode of Tooth or Dare with Irene and Whitney! 

This Episode is Dedicated to our friend Paul our Instagram buddy who always listens to our episodes and comments on our posts. Thanks, Paul for being an awesome friend!  @Swole_DDS

This is Officially that LAST Episode from Chicago Midwinter with the amazing @TheDentalYogis

Thank you to Hu-Friedy for sponsoring this episode! This week @Toothlife.Irene got to try a new sparkly instrument called the EverEdge 2R/2L and has fallen in love with this universal curette. 

72% sharper out the box than your average scaler this beauty is a universal built for the anterior teeth.

Click Here Here Here Here Here Here to see the video of this beautiful instrument!

What to expect with this episode:  

Say hello to Dr. Cristian Pavel and Dr. Danielle Cascioli

Met in Las Vegas back in 2016 on a last min trip but it turned into this beautiful relationship. 

Yoga began with Danielle in Dental school, Cristian was not a yogi at this point. 

Inspired by @acrobuddhas

The first San Marcos La Laguna was mentioned as a cool place to travel to for a retreat or just a cool experience in a small town in Guatemala.  

Join the Yogis Live on Sundays at 1 pm CST on their IG to practice with them via Instagram! 

NEW TO EVERYONE! The Yogis now have an app

The Yogis have collaborated on a cool app, check it out in the App Store called hiitide app to subscribe to their yoga program! 

Want to reach out to the Yogis, Check out their website and DM them on Instagram. 

Check out our Instagram within the next 7 days to watch this dare go down! Whitney is gonna FLY!

Happy Independence Day Peeps and Just past Canada day!! To celebrate you as individuals our sponsor of this episode Hu-Friedy really wants to help YOU as Individuals and Professionals Invest in your Career!
Friends of Hy-Friedy helps you do that... pretty epic stuff loaded onto the site! over 175 clinical articles, Free CE, Networking with your Fav- Peeps and dental besties.
I Like that you can find a mentor! Did you know that it's awesome we all need a mentor don't we. AND FRIENDS!!!! You can find friends, other dental friends that share the same interests, I mean I feel like I can always use more dental friends!
That's how we add value to our practice peeps, more we learn the more we can offer our offices and patients the latest and greatest from HF!


This Episode is dedicated to @ThomasMurphy02 for being an awesome supporter of all things Teeth related!

This episode we interview @DentistSinging Dr. Milad Shadrooh born in Iran and lives in the UK since the ripe age of 5. Only children in the house! 

Listen in to find out how Milad became @DentistSinging, became this dental parody sensation starting off from picking up that syringe at baby age. Fate Decided!  

Other inclusions nurses/hygienists/therapists in London vs USA vs Canada, telling us his routine to writing parody lyrics, 

Once again, thank you to Hu-Friedy for putting in so much time and effort into the Friends of Hu-Friedy platform. Don't forget to go check it out and join to get your CE and earn Hu-Points. It's the program that helps you get free stuff! you register for things and you get points, that's how you get scalers, probes.. mirrors... all those awesome items!
You've gotta try it out! Join today at

Contact Milad on Instagram @dentistsinging 





Welcome back to the Tooth or Dare Podcast Peeps. This episode is rollout out from Chicago Midwinter this year, completely unplanned and impromptu interview with the godfather of dental podcasts Dr. Alan Mead of the Dental Hacks. Follow on Facebook, Dental Hacks Nation is a pretty good spot to get all your dental related banter and info.


This episode is kindly sponsored by Hu-Friedy, helping us dental peeps perform at our best.

Before we get into Alan's interview we want you all to go and check out the new Ever Edge 2.0 scalers by Hu-Friedy!

Irene got to try them recently and OMG they are legendary! Come out of the box 72% sharper than other instruments. No joke, lighter and sharpest instrument I’ve tried to date! Whitney is a big fan also. Customizable handle in 8 different resin colours for all your colour coding needs.


Irene Fun Fact: DID YOU KNOW THAT The #9 EverEdge handle was also designed to be the optimal weight for reduced hand fatigue.- TRUE STORY!


What is this episode about you ask?

  • Podcast banter from the guru to the newbies, sharing podcast epic fails and other comical podcast related stories.
  • Alan has literally a supercomputer setup with 4 computers doing fancy things to support all the knowledge he drops on his Podcast.
  • Click here to listen to Dental Hacks.
  • Alan listens to our podcast FYI when doing the most important task of all…. Cleaning the house and scrubbing the floors.
  • Voices of Dentistry is the place to be to meet your fav podcasters. Caugh Caugh… we wanna go hook some sisters up!
  • THE FIRST TOOTH comes out, Alan is super kind not daring Whitney to do something redic.


Thanks, Alan for being on our Podcast we appreciate your insights, experiences and being a cool guy.

Shoot him an email at Mead Family Dentistry. 

 Where to find Alan: has some cool content and blogs 

Facebook- Dental Hacks Nation

The Alan Mead Experience Podcast 

Welcome to another fun-filled episode with @Toothlife.Irene (Irene) and @teethtalkgirl (Whitney) Live at CDA in Anaheim California baby!

On this episode, the podcast team interviews @drmattasaro our Instagram friend, while taking over the Ortho counter live on the floor at the Hu-Friedy booth. Chatting about California, his friend who lived out of an ambulance, and how he went from dentist to Instagram video creator.

Thank you to all you peeps that came by the booth to say hello and partake in some trivia and fun. We appreciate you all! 

This episode is brought to you by our friends at Hu-Friedy who share with us some epic details about the Hu-Care program! 

Hu-Care offers FREE Ortho instrument sharpening and maintenance on all Hu-Friedy orthodontic cutters and pliers! Because we all know how much we hate when those distal end cutters and ligature cutters get dull! 

Click HERE to enrol in this free service or visit the link below!


Stay tuned on our Instagram @Toothordare.podcast over the next 7 days to see @drmattasaro do his dare!

Lastly, we are dedicating this episode to our IG friend & Podcast listener Samantha (@samanthaasusnjara)! Thanks for your kind words and awesome selfie skills! 

Ever wonder how writers become writers? Well, it often starts with a killer behind the scenes team that helps inspire and polish what goes to print. 

This episode was recorded live at Chicago MidWinter with a killer team from Oral Health Group. A Canadian based publication that is making huge waves in media and how stories and education are shared among various healthcare professionals and providers. 

Jillian (Editor) and Tony (Director of Business Development) sit down with us to discuss how it all works. From Scripting, planning to edit. 

Have you wanted to write an article but aren't sure where to begin or how to start, this is the episode for you, and also if you want to hear how distracted the entire group gets seeing a giant sloth walk by.  Jillian and Tony are the right people to approach. Visit Oral Health Group to get more info on how you can become a contributor like Irene. 

Below are some links to articles Irene has published with the assistance of Jillian and Tony 

"Is It Really Periodontal Disease?"

"A Leap of Faith"

"What Your Ears May Tell Us About Your Health" 

Thank you both for being on the Podcast!


Welcome back to another Episode Peeps! We are so pumped for this episode with our dental bestie Amber Auger! 

Huge shout out to our peeps and dear friends @Hu_Friedy for sponsoring this amazing episode with the one and only millennial mentor @AmberAugerRDH AND for providing the episode giveaway that you'll have to listen to hear about! 

 What's up in this episode you ask: WELL...Irene rants about her experience in Chicago at the Hu-Friedy factory and product training with a new product coming to you all soon!

Pun of the episode: Molar of the story… GO TO THE HU-FRIEDY FACTORY TOUR!

 This episode is dedicated to the amazing non-dental peep @jfkennedy on Instagram. Thanks for being such an amazing fanboy! We appreciate you bro! 

 This episode starts @6:59 and we gotta send out a little caution… It's recorded live at Chicago Midwinter moments after we met for the first time. So energy levels are high, excitement is at its maximum and you may or may not hear Irene shriek multiple times.

No spoilers in the notes about our guest you gotta listen to this episode to hear more about how Amber fell in love with teeth and has turned her career into the amazing thing it has become. 

How to Contact our guest for Fangirl/fanboy stuff or Business opportunities?

Follow her on Instagram @AmberAugerrdh

Visit her website and don’t forget to tune into Ask Amber on RDH Magazine's Facebook page. 

Now the moment you've been waiting for!

Follow @Toothordare.Podcast ASAP for your chance to enter this episode’s giveaway.

2 Lucky Dental Peeps will take home the most amazing Titanium implant scalers ever sponsored by Hu-Friedy.

 Want to learn more about the Titanium (Anodized) Scalers, visit the link below to learn more about why they are a beautiful Teal colour!

 Until next time peeps... ☮️ ❤️ 🦷 


YouTube dental sensation Brittany Watu aka @brittanygoestodentalschool on Instagram. 

We chat about the exciting world of Josh Groban and as per usual, make ridiculous dental puns that somehow make us all laugh and cry at the same time. 

Brittany is AMAZING! She's been documenting her life in dental school. The good bad and ugly, Day one all the way to graduation (So she tells us). 

With a rising 14k subscribers on YouTube and close to 7k on Instagram Brittany is helping everyone navigate their lives and also gives great info for those thinking of going to dental school.

Somehow managing to keep her life in order, given the crazy studying and editing.

Tune in to her channel to see her epic videos!

Show Brittany some love and subscribe to her channel.

Happy Oral Health Month Dental Peeps! 
Our very first episode in oral health month and next week is National dental hygiene week in Canada which has us even more excited for April! Shoutout to ADHA and CDHA for partnering this year on the put on your purple initiative! 

We have some exciting news to share with you this episode and we are so pumped that we got to sit down and chat teeth stuff with Kirpa Sudick. 

However, we did bombard her socials and slide in to her DM's from basically every account we could get our hands on. Thank you to everyone who went on our 24 hour Kirpa messaging spree.  IT WORKED!

Shoutouts to the avid RDH's and the peeps at ADHA for a. your love of all things Bachelor and b. supporting our podcast. 

Recently back home from her amazing Bachelor experience.  Kirpa has been keeping busy with her best fab life but manages to sneak in some time to give us the inside scoop on the entire process and how leaving dental hygiene (Temporarily) has been for her. 

Kirpa kindly answered all your questions so you may hear your name pop up in the episode! 

ALSO to continue the amazing news! Tooth or Dare Podcast has its very first sponsor! We are so happy to partner up with Hu-Friedy and bring you exclusive news, tips, tricks and fun stuff! - Huge thank you to HF for supporting this podcast and for delivering high-quality products and service that help us perform at our very best!

Thank you Hu-Friedy for supporting dental peeps everywhere and specifically our friends and followers. 

Don't forget to go to to be entered for a chance to win a brand new instrument!

Contest details are on the link so head there to enter!  Lastly, Get cool stuff and tons of CE by signing up at 

Lastly, we are dedicating this episode to out Instagram/Youtube Friend @nikkinicole_2  aka Nikki Chikki, Thanks for your kindness girl and good luck with your dental career. We are super proud of you and your journey.  

Peace Love and Teeth Peeps

I + W 


Alina Morse aka Candy Princess is killing the market with her genius product called ZolliCandy. Featured all over the media, print and basically a celebrity entrepreneur for being a 13 year old business owner with an estimated 6 million dollar evaluation for 2019.

A young woman on a mission also giving back a portion of earnings to the One Million Smiles Initiative. 

Follow along with Alina and her mission to take over the candy world on instagram @zollicandy and visit use promo code: keepemsmiling for awesome resources for dental practices and social media content. 






March 7, 2019

Episode 10: @Dr. Nick

Dental Peeps, we are super pumped to bring you @dr.nick

You've seen Dr. Nick Ciardiello killing the Instagram game with his epic videos. Irene's likely watched the most recent "life without a hygienist" like 143 times. 

The ladies talk Instagram shop with Dr. Nick, how he got to his following, how he communicates with people and some of his tips on making cool videos while having a full-time job. 

Dr. Nick answers some of your Instagram questions, so listen up for a shoutout! 




What do Baseball, Horses, reality TV and persistence have in common? 

The answer revolves this episodes guest. Paul Geuy, aka @Swole_dds from Instgram, shares his life story with us. His inspiring outlook on the world, highs, and lows that have a very happy ending. 

We are so happy to hear and share your story Paul. You're #goals. 



She is the founder of the company we LOVE DENTAL HYGIENE NATION AKA INSTA FAMOUS @dthynation. 

You know peeps, it isn't always sunshine and rainbows despite what social media may show you. 

The highlights come with some lowlights and today Whitney, Irene, and Caitlyn get deep for 4.5 seconds, then go back to their classic goofy selves.  

Listen in to this trio of girl power and work through some of the ideas you might have with some advice from these entrepreneurial ladies. Caitlyn shares some of her do's and don'ts for business startups and the challenges of buing a business owner in the eyes of the world, family and DH community.

THEN....something magical happens. Like Unicorns with a rainbow pot of gold kind of magical happens! 

First ever on Tooth or Dare the guest decides to do the dare. WHAT WHAT!!!! 

Thanks for your continued support peeps! 

We love you and we welcome your feedback and amazing reviews as always. 


2019 has finally arrived listen to what these ladies have done over the holidays and how they are starting this year with a bang!

Irene shared some BIG news to share with Y'all in 2018 and had a monumental day in private practice this week. 

Often with the turn of a new year, we get itchy to ask some financial questions. Listen to hear how Whitney and Irene perceive getting raises, quitting or getting fired and how it all is positive in the world of getting more money down the road! 

Happy Listening! 


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SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!... Was our exact response when A Tale of Two Hygienists reached out to us to do a joint podcast!  

Michelle and Andrew (aka the dental hygiene gods of the podcast world) asked us some questions about our goals in the world of podcasting whilst Irene and Whitney grilled them with questions about podcasting and how to get it right! 

Rants and raves from both sides in this chatty episode of the veterans and the newbies. Turns out we have more common items that we thought. 

Both podcast duets...

1. Didn't know one another before the started making podcast magic.

2. Have done a mission trip of some kind. 

3. Have a hard time keeping up with the scope of practice in each state/province.

...just to name a few things that this podcast collaboration revealed. 


In all seriousness, we would like to fire off a huge shoutout to these fantastic humans for helping us get comfortable in this big bad dental podcast world. We are very grateful to have friends like you and we are super pumped to see you and work hopefully work together in the future.  

Do them a solid and go vote for them and all of your favorite hygiene podcasts! Nominate us for next year as we started late in the game this year! 

Wanna say HI in person?

-Go and say hi to them at Voices of Dentistry conference fingers crossed Tooth or Dare will be there in 2019!

-Irene and ATOTH will be at Yankee Dental Conference.

-Andrew, Whitney, and Irene will be at Chicago Midwinter... let the selfie-taking begin! 

Peace Love and Teeth! - @TeethTalkGirl

Happy Holidays Peeps - @Toothlife.Irene


We know her as @toothlife.irene. She travels world lecturing to dental peeps and is living her best life as the founder of Toothlife.  Irene is a woman of many talents... so many that Whitney doesn't even know half of what she does yet!  She does know that Irene is killing the IG game and for sure creates adorable Toothlife jewelry.

Whitney has been preparing some serious questions for our fellow RDH, speaker, instructor, and influencer without a peep about what she's going to ask. Listen to this epic interview style podcast to hear what Irene has to say to Whitney's lightning bolt round of questions... and just wait to hear Irene's BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!

And as always, we end the show with an interesting game of Tooth or Dare. Irene's turn so FOLLOW OUR IG to see what happens next!

Irene has been fangirling over @ToothfairyKNZ aka Mackenzie and her artistic denture making for a long time... which makes this interview extra special for our overly excited Canadian. 

Whitney and Irene ask some serious questions about Mackenzie's career path, personal path, #goals and the question we all truly have as clinicians .... "how should we REALLY be telling patients to clean their removable dentures?" and "If you want to get into this business... formal training or mentorship?"

Listen to hear the answers to these questions & don't forget to follow our Instagram page for the dare! IT IS GOING TO BE EPIC! 

We all know her as @teethtalkgirl. Her YouTube videos are ridiculously funny and informative. 

Who would have thought you could teach people about scalers in the same sentence you rap to a cardi song? Yup... only our girl Whitney can pull that off.  See what I'm talking about here 

Irene has been preparing some serious questions for our fellow RDH and Influencer without a peep about what she's going to ask. Listen to this epic interview style podcast to hear what Whitney has to say to Irene's interrogative questions. 

And as always, we end the show with an interesting game of Tooth or Dare. Whitney's turn! 

A follow up mini pod to our first episode.

Irene interviews Stacianne Tennant on her last day in Jamaica. 

Stacianne Tennant BSc, RDH, MSc. Public Health specialization in Environmental Health Sciences and Clinical Instructor.

In the event, you didn't think all that is impressive she is a fierce advocate for oral health in Jamaica, DH pioneer, and founder of the Dental Hygienists Association of Jamaica. 

Lets put our overgloves together for the woman of the hour! 

If you want to email Stacianne she can be reached at

Welcome to the first Episode of Tooth or Dare! 

Irene (@toothlife.Irene) and Whitney (@teethtalkgirl) are super excited to chat for the first time on the podcast. 

Both Irene and Whitney talk about their week in private practice and Whitney shares her experience at her very first speaking engagement on a panel with other dental hygiene influencers. 

Irene talks about her upcoming week, going to speak in Jamaica (which will follow with a short interview this week to set some facts straight).  

This is a short episode of 28 minutes just get our feet wet in the world of podcasting!

Then we close the show with the very first game of Tooth or Dare.  

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