Chris ‘Love’ Williams

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Welcome back, Peeps! 

Christopher Williams aka Chris Love is a multi-talented and widely experienced entrepreneur and dental hygienist. In this episode, Chris shares the story of his transition from active duty in the Air Force to becoming an RDH, and eventually becoming a thought leader in the field. He currently hosts the Dental-Ish podcast with the Brown Girl RDH duo, Martelle Coke and Anaika Forbes (Check out our amazing interview with Martelle on episode #42). Chris Love talks us through his journey and professional approach to dental hygiene as a black man. He also shares work as the co-founder of Prophy Kings, which embraces cultural and gender diversity in the hygiene field.

We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • Why are there so few men in dental hygiene?
  • How can we diversify dental hygiene?
  • Is there a difference between men and women dental hygienists?
  • Is the hiring process rigged?
  • Is dental hygiene sexualized?

Chris Love in his own words:

My name is Chris Williams also known as Chris Love

I'm a male hygienist that only recently left working in the clinical setting after practicing 5 years to now working with a dental marketing company as the business development manager. I am a serial entrepreneur hustler extraordinaire LOL, so I've started multiple small businesses and coached/advised other small businesses on getting started and best practices when trying to sustain.

I am the founder of Prophy Kings, the home for the male hygienist. We have a group on Facebook and an Instagram page. We promote diversity and representation of the male hygienist and assistant. I also started a Youtube channel where I give advice to Men and hygienists alike on the hygiene profession, business, and self care.

I am also the co-owner and co-host of "Dental-Ish" the podcast alongside Martelle Coke best known as the founder of BrownGirlRDH and Anaika Forbes best known for her company "hashtaglunchbag" that puts up community fridges in underserved areas that are filled with donated food products.

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Dr. Angela Mulrooney

CW: Suicide

Welcome back, Peeps! 

We are so lucky to have Dr. Angela Mulrooney on the show to tell her harrowing life story. Katrina witnessed Dr. Mulrooney speak and perform at JUMPSTART 2020 and knew she had to invite her on the show to tell us more about her remarkable life path. Dr. Angela tells about juggling her passion for dance while attending dental school, hitting rock bottom, and having to reinvent herself entirely after losing her accomplished career in dentistry. Her humanist approach to mental health and its relationship to work informs her current career as a dental business consultant.

Watch Dr. Angela’s ingenious, heartfelt performance at JUMPSTART here: 

We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • How can I balance dentistry and free time?
  • What does it take to rebuild myself from the ground up?
  • How do I know if I need a career coach?
  • How can I make effective use of my social media?

Dr. Mulrooney’s Bio:

Dr. Angela Mulrooney is a retired dentist turned branding expert. How did that happen?

She wanted to be a dentist since she had baby teeth. At 24, She started living her dental dream which turned into an enviable dental career. She turned a broken down practice into her dream practice. She lived the elusive dream of providing the services she loved, on clients she loved, while earning more and working less.

Overnight, she went from being a well-known dentist to hitting rock-bottom - losing everything after sustaining a career-ending injury that killed her ability to practice.

She rebranded herself as a dental business coach. Her authentic comeback story as she built her new brand was noticed by other professionals who started asking her to unleash their authentic personal brands on social media.

She works with professionals internationally to get them noticed as the go-to expert of their industry while maintaining their authenticity.

You might be the most talented professional in the world, but what if no one knows you exist? Let’s ensure that never happens!

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Unleashing Influence IG: @UnleashingInfluence



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Dr. Laura Mach DDS

Content Warning: Domestic Abuse

Dr. Laura Mach is back for part two of our interview. If you haven’t heard part one yet, you’ve got to check out last week’s episode to follow along with one of our most profound conversations on Tooth or Dare. Her story acts as a warning and a guide to those of us who have experienced domestic abuse. Dr. Laura’s active compassionate way of being and work is a powerful reminder that our lives are not defined by those who take advantage of us. We are incredibly thankful that she joined us again to share her story. 

Check out Dr. Laura’s own podcast and her website at the links below, you will not regret it.

We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • How does being a dental professional affect our relationships?
  • How long does it really take to heal?
  • What steps do you take to heal from abuse?

Dr. Laura Mach’s Biography:

Dr Laura Mach is a practicing general dentist who has owned her practice for 13 years. She is also a certified life coach and a speaker within dentistry. She speaks on emotions, communication, creating the life you want, and treating transgender patients. She also has a podcast for female dentists called Love Your Practice which is on iTunes, Spotify and YouTube.

Dr Mach took a non traditional route to dental school and graduated with three young children. A year after graduation she found herself divorced and naively navigating the world of dating. She immediately got caught up into a dangerous relationship that ended up threatening her practice, her finances, and ultimately her physical safety. Laura speaks out about what happened to her to help other women in as many ways as she can. 


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IG: @DrLauraMachDDS


Podcast: Love Your Practice - Available on iTunes and Spotify


Youtube: Love Your Practice! Youtube Channel


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Dr. Laura Mach DDS

Welcome back, Peeps! 

Certified life coach, dentist, and industry veteran Dr. Laura Mach is a fountain of compassion and wisdom on today’s episode of Tooth or Dare. This conversation is one in a two part series focused on how we can better serve our patients and live our own lives free from doubt and worry that we impose on ourselves. Dr. Laura tells the story of getting her DDS degree while raising children, buying her own dental practice, and leading a team for 13 years. Her work as a life coach is focused on giving women dental professionals the permission to step into their power.

Check out Dr. Laura’s own podcast and her website at the links below, you will not regret it.

We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • Am I doing a good enough job in my dental practice?
  • How can dental hygienists get specialized guidance and mentorship?
  • How do you deal with a crabby coworker?
  • How can I be okay when things feel wrong?

Dr. Laura Mach’s Biography:

Dr Laura Mach is a practicing general dentist who has owned her practice for 13 years. She is also a certified life coach and a speaker within dentistry. She speaks on emotions, communication, creating the life you want, and treating transgender patients. She also has a podcast for female dentists called Love Your Practice which is on iTunes, Spotify and YouTube.

Dr Mach took a non traditional route to dental school and graduated with three young children. A year after graduation she found herself divorced and naively navigating the world of dating. She immediately got caught up into a dangerous relationship that ended up threatening her practice, her finances, and ultimately her physical safety. Laura speaks out about what happened to her to help other women in as many ways as she can. 

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IG: @DrLauraMachDDS


Podcast: Love Your Practice - Available on iTunes and Spotify


Youtube: Love Your Practice! Youtube Channel


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Blake McClellan

Welcome back, Peeps! 

We are huge fans of the work and products of today’s guest. Blake McClellan is the Founder of Implant Compare, an online live-streaming platform showcasing dental surgery and educational materials for dental professionals. You’ve got to check out their Instagram where they highlight dental surgeries (á la @bloodytoothguy) using their state of the art recording equipment. 


In all of his work, Blake is dedicated to bringing dentistry out of antiquity whether it's through Burning Man-inspired dental education experiences, his very own dental podcast ALL-IN Dental, or his 4K miniature dental video camera which you attach directly to your loupes. Seriously peeps, check out this camera. It makes recording SO much easier and many of our former guests are using it with the Implant Compare platform!

This was a really fun conversation and we covered a lot. Blake answers some of these questions and much more:

  • How can we update the dental conference format?
  • Is it worth it to be a dental influencer?
  • How can we provide meaningful dental education in a pandemic?
  • Should we be drinking more Pedialyte?

Find Blake McClellan’s work online:

IG: @ImplantCompare 

Dental Experiences and Education: 

ALL-IN Podcast: 

Implant Compare Online Platform: 

4K Mini Dental Camera: 


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Renee’ Graham RDH

Welcome back, Peeps! 

Thank you to Denstply Sirona for sponsoring today’s episode!

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We are so pleased to welcome Renee’ Graham of Dentsply Sirona to share her four decades of dental industry experience and knowledge. She describes her timeline from her initial inspiration to be a hygienist, to her early career as a dental hygienist, and ending with her current position at Denstply Sirona. Today Renee’ works with key opinion leaders to promote the future of the dental industry. Renee’s perspective of dentistry provides a unique opportunity to see how the professional culture has changed and how we arrive at today’s gold standard of patient care.

Stay tuned to hear Renee’ Graham describe her dental dream team!


We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • How has dentistry and dental hygiene evolved in past decades?
  • How can we invest to improve patient relationships?
  • Who are the leading voices of dentistry today?

Renee’ Graham's Bio:

Renee’ Graham received her dental hygiene degree from Darton State College (now Albany State University) and both a Bachelor of Science in Education and a Master of Education degree from Valdosta State University. Renee’ brings to the division 39 years of private practice, academic leadership and administration. Since 2007, Renee’ has been employed with Dentsply Sirona as a Clinical Educator. Formerly the international CE for Europe and Canada; she now delivers programs throughout the US. Renee’ enjoys lecturing nationally as well as internationally.


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Dr. AJ Acierno

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Today is the day: Dr. AJ Acierno, the CEO of DecisionOne Dental joins us to dish some indispensable facts about the state of the dental and healthcare industry. Dr. Acierno currently runs 30+ offices with Decision One dental and shares in explicit detail the do’s and don’ts of both managing and purchasing a dental office.

He and his brother have together built a dental empire in Chicago and beyond. We talk about turning a $500,000 a year dental practice into a $2.2 million a year practice, the precise amount of doctors and patients each office should have, and how to scale your business with little to no marketing budget. These claims would sound absurd if they weren’t coming from the man who did it all himself, Dr. AJ Acierno! 


Dr. Acierno answers these questions and much more:

  • What is a good annual profit for a dental office?
  • When is the right time to scale your dental business?
  • How do you know when you take on a new doctor?
  • How do you know when you’re running a successful dental practice?


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The Smile Room - Tina Mavriyannakis


Welcome back, Peeps! 

Thank you to Hu-Friedy for sponsoring today's episode! Hu-Friedy’s new Harmony™ Ergonomic Scalers are a new personal favorite at ToothLife Studios. These scalers are designed to reduce pinch force and relieve hygienists of aching hands and ease the pressure on patients’ teeth. They allow for an incredibly tactile and sensitive scaling experience. Read about them more on Hu-Friedy’s site here: Harmony Ergonomic Scalers


It is a joy and an honor to speak with Tina Mavriyannakis RDH, the founder and CEO of The Smile Room, a fully mobile corporate and residential dental cleaning service. Tina (secret ToD superfan) shares how she forged her path to becoming the private RDH at the Google offices and many more corporate clients.

We discuss the future of teledentistry and mobile dentistry and how to rebrand the public image of dental hygienists across Canada and the US. Tina has made a remarkable name for herself and for hygienists in all of North America. Her work provides a great example of how a career in dentistry can flourish outside of the operatory.


We cover some of these topics and much more: 

  • Can you go to the dentist without insurance?
  • How does dentistry adapt to the rise of telehealth services?
  • What do you need to start a mobile dental office?
  • What is a restorative hygienist?

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Sonya Dunbar RDH, MHA, The Geriatric Tooth Fairy

Happy V-day, Peeps! 

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Sonya Dunbar speaks on the Future of Modern Mobile Dentistry!


We are so excited to have on the US Navy Veteran, author, entrepreneur, public speaker, teacher, and philanthropist, Sonya Dunbar RDH AKA The Geriatric Tooth Fairy! Sonya’s vitality and effort to push our dental community forward culturally and medically is clear in her words and her life’s work. She walks us through the early days of giving free dental care to her Grandmother’s friends and soon dedicating her time to comprehensive geriatric dental care.

Sonya shares her experience of dishing out an industry-shattering speech at RDH Under One Roof 2020 and shares her experience of black invisibility in the white-dominated dental field and at dental conferences. Her long list of accomplishments makes her one of the most remarkable and dynamic peeps in the field today.

We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • How can we approach geriatric dental care as hygienists?
  • How do you educate seniors on dental care?
  • How can we address a lack of diversity in dentistry?

Sonya Dunbar’s Biography: 

The Geriatric Tooth Fairy Sonya Dunbar, also known as the Geriatric Toothfairy, is a Registered Dental Hygienist, TEDx, and national public speaker guided by over 28 years of dental experience in private practice, skilled nursing facilities, and academia. Sonya and her husband, Gerald Dunbar, are the owners of Mobile Dental Xpress, providing comprehensive dental care to long-term care facilities. In addition, Sonya is a Geriatric Oral health educator and trainer. Sonya is a US Navy Veteran and is pursuing a Ph.D. in Gerontology.Sonya is a serial entrepreneur and successful Cultural diversity workplace coach that increase cultural awareness, knowledge, and communication through interactive educational workshops. She is a Key Opinion Leader on culture and diversity for Crest & Oral-B and known philanthropist. She is the Co-Founder of the National Mobile & Teledentistry Dental Conference, The American Mobile Dentistry & Teledentistry Alliance, and a published author of Golden Nuggets For Life, Co-Author of Modern Mobile & Teledentistry and The Tooth & Nothing but The Truth Books. And if that is not enough, the National Day Archives LLC has proclaimed November 9th of each calendar year as The Geriatric Toothfairy Day.


Find Sonya online:

IG: @geriatric_toothfairy

Sonya’s Videos along with The Suave & Sassy Senior Show: Geriatric Toothfairy Facebook Channel

Youtube: The Geriatric Toothfairy Channel

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Dr. Gina Dorfman DDS

Welcome back, Peeps! 

Thank you to YAPI for sponsoring today's episode. YAPI is releasing their Smart Scheduling feature on the app very soon. Smart Scheduling by YAPI will help you gain more qualified new patients with online appointment booking on your website, and automatically invite your past-due patients to book their next cleaning or exam through a text or email. The appointment data writes back to your schedule instantly! Setup your unique scheduling rules to keep control of your appointment book, and configure your accepted insurance providers easily, so you can work smarter, not harder. 80% of patients prefer a provider who offers 
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We are so excited to have back on the show for another legendary appearance, Dr. Gina Dorfman. Dr. G is the founder of the YAPI app which she and her husband run together. Irene says that integrating the paperless YAPI system was one of the best decisions she’s ever made for her practice. Dr. Gina created the YAPI software to make her work in her own practice easier. We talk through her experience of leaving Soviet Russia and opening her first dental practice. Dr. Gina’s true calling is clearly to dish out extremely helpful career advice. She provides some much needed triage of Irene’s difficult experiences in the nuances of managing her own new dental practice. Check out Dr. Dorfman's podcast here! Stay tuned for the outro to hear the unbelievably sweet ending to this story!

We cover some of these dental topics and much more:

  • How do you bankrupt a dental office?
  • How do you train staff to use new technology?
  • What should discipline look like in a dental office?
  • How can you tell when an employee is not a good fit?

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IG: @yapi_app

Personal Website:

YAPI Website:

Dr. Gina's Podcast: Behind the Smiles Podcast with Dr. Gina Dorfman


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Sarah Varney RDH BSDH & Christine Diehl RDH BS


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Welcome back, Peeps! 

Today we are joined by the dynamic duo that are building up a generation of leaders that will elevate the dental industry. Sarah Varney and Christine Diehl are the founders of DSO Hygiene Excellence, an accreditation program geared toward dental hygienists. Sarah and Christine talk us through the systems needed to measure success as hygienists and the difficulties we face as a profession. These entrepreneurs dish their thoughts on effective leadership, patient care and system implementation in the dental office.


We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • How can we measure if our patients are getting the best care?
  • What are the most important factors for a hygienist to track in order to measure their personal performance?
  • How do you talk to a patient about fluoride and other periodontal therapy?
  • Should hygienists be paid hourly or on a percentage basis?


DSO Hygiene Excellence Team Bio:

Christine Diehl RDH BS

I have 28 years of clinical Dental Hygiene experience. I practice a patient centered approach with an emphasis on the oral systemic connection. I graduated from Parkland College with my degree in Dental Hygiene and a Bachelor's of Health Sciences from Northern Illinois University. Over my career, I have attended a multitude of continuing education, including the Las Vegas Institute for Advanced Dental Studies Local Anesthesia for Dental Hygienists, University of Illinois at Chicago College of Dentistry in 2003 and received an Associate Fellowship from the World Clinical Laser Institute. In 2007, I co-founded White Velocity, a tooth whitening company.We sold exclusively through high end salons and spas. This venture gave me an appreciation of the business side of dentistry.In 2019, Founded CE2 at Decision One Dental. June 2020 Founder and CEO of DSO Hygiene Excellence. My goal is to elevate the profession of dental hygiene by giving hygienists the tools needed to be the Best!


Sarah Varney RDH BSDH

Registered Dental Hygienist with a Bachelor of Science in Dental Hygiene degree, employed by Kendall Pointe Dental since 1988. Received an Associate in Applied Science Dental Hygiene degree in 1995 from Parkland College in Champaign, IL and graduated with Honors from the University of Bridgeport in Bridgeport, CT with a Bachelor of Science Dental Hygiene degree in 2008. Obtained certifications: Local Anesthesia for Dental Hygienists, University of Illinois at Chicago College of Dentistry in 2003, an Associate Fellowship and Dental Laser Certification, World Clinical Laser Institute in 2004, Ultimate Soft Tissue Laser Certification, World Clinical Laser Institute in 2013, Administer and Monitor Nitrous Oxide, University of Illinois at Chicago College of Dentistry in 2010, Inspired Hygiene Mastermind Member and Advanced Periodontal Coach in 2011. Member of the Illinois Dental Hygiene Association and the academic honorary society, Phi Kappa Phi. In 2008, became the charter recipient of the Irene Newman award.In June 2019, Founded and became the Program Director for CE2 at DecisionOne Dental.Applied to the University of Notre Dame, Mendoza School of Business, Executive MBA program in May 2019. Received admissions in August 2019 into the University of Notre Dame, Mendoza School of Business, Executive MBA program, Chicago campus, Class of 2021.

June 2020, CEO and Founder of DSO Hygiene Excellence, an organization of dental hygienists in the pursuit of excellence in patient care within the DSO space with an emphasis on leadership, business and national collaboration with other like-minded hygienists to elevate our profession and patient outcomes

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IG: @DSOHygieneExcellence 

Facebook: @DSOHygieneExcellence


Youtube: DSO Hygiene Excellence Youtube Page



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Summer Lewis - Diamond Sharp


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Sign up for your free demo with the link above. We are using GreenLight in our office now. It’s a great way for the whole office to stay up to date on the highest standard of sanitary protocol. And keep an eye out for the new Water Test Kit launching in 2021! Thanks Hu-Friedy!


Today we are so proud to have a guest with a firm position in Irene’s top 8, a mother, and an entrepreneur keeping it together in the pandemic, Summer Lewis! Summer talks us through the early days of absolutely despising sharpening tools as a dental student, working as a dental assistant, and eventually founding her own business in 2018. Today, Ms. Lewis runs Diamond Sharp, a drive-up, same-day dental instrument sharpening business. Catch her and her team driving the blue van around Toronto and pretty soon, all over the US!

As a regular of Diamond Sharp, I can say confidently that the cost and timeliness of their services are a no-brainer for any dental office. Her team is super nice and they are extremely reliable, especially in a pinch!


We ask Summer these questions and much more:

  • Should dental students graduate knowing how to sharpen tools?
  • Can I work in the dental field without working in an office?
  • What is the best way to sharpen dental tools?
  • Can the Diamond Sharp bus be turned into a travelling karaoke club?

Book your appointment with Diamond Sharp online now!

IG: @Diamond.Sharp



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Welcome back, Peeps!

Thanks to our friends at Dentsply Sirona we are back for another amazing week! Fun fact, here are the dets on the part 1/part 2 Webinars Irene and Katrina are tuning into. 


The time is now! The oral-systemic link is not new to dentistry; however, communicating its significance to our patients AND providing more effective periodontal care is now more important than ever. This session will guide you through the latest research and help you create a plan to provide optimal care for patients while practicing a ‘safety-first’ approach. Tune in to add to your 2021 CE portfolio! 


Today we are so happy to speak with Dr. Joy Void-Holmes. She takes us on the journey through dental classes at Howard University where she was class president, getting her Ph.D., acting as a dentist for Al Gore, all while navigating four pregnancies... AND getting her real estate license. Dr. Joy’s story is filled with surprises that she encounters with a determination that is clear in her every word. She strives to claim new respect for all dental hygienists and dental educators so that they can have the autonomy they deserve. Thank you so much to Dr. Joy for sharing her warm sense of humour and the contagious pride she takes in her work.


We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • Does the president have a dental office?
  • Can you raise kids as a dental hygienist?
  • Should a dental hygienist get a Ph.D.?
  • Are dental educators paid fairly?


Dr. Joy’s bio:


Dr. Joy D. Void-Holmes holds a Doctor of Health Science degree from Nova Southeastern University and is a registered dental hygienist with over 25 years of clinical experience in private practice. She is the founder of Dr. Joy, RDH™ and the creator of the Dental Hygiene Student Planner™.  Dr. Joy is program chair for Fortis College Landover Dental Hygiene Program and holds a faculty position at the American Denturist School.  Dr. Joy is a professional speaker and published author.  She has presented continuing education courses nationally and internationally in the areas of instrumentation, ultrasonics, infection control, and nutrition and biochemistry, whitening along with her signature keynote, Confidence and Courage. She serves as a Consultant Examiner for the CDCA examination board and is Past-President of The Maryland Dental Hygienists' Association and an active member of The American Academy of Dental Hygienists, The American Dental Hygienists' Association and The Maryland Dental Action Coalition.


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Twitter: @drjoyrdh





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Katrina Klein, RDH, CEAS, CPT

Welcome back, Peeps!


As we herald in a new year, it’s probably about time that we drag ourselves to the gym (or open the rowing machine that’s been sitting in its box for months).

This week on the third mic we are happy to have Katrina Klein, the founder of ErgoFit Life. In her decade-long career as an RDH (while moonlighting as a bodybuilder), Katrina came to recognize the health issues that all medical professionals face in their work. She speaks from experience when it comes to working and living healthier as a dental professional. In her work she offers individualized assessments and workout routines focused on workers in the medical field. We talk about chronic pain, preventative ergonomics, and how to live and work in a dental office pain-free. Katrina Klein provides some tangible ways we can build a program for ourselves that serves our unique needs.


We answer these questions and much more:

  • Do Dental Hygienists have bad backs?
  • How can I work out and work full time?
  • Does working out improve metabolism?
  • What is an ergonomic assessment?

Katrina’s Biography:


For Katrina Klein, ergonomics is everything. She is a full time practicing Registered Dental Hygienist - has been for 13 years and counting. She knows firsthand the struggle of working in a stationary, inflexible environment. Katrina has dedicated herself to helping others prevent injury in the workplace, free themselves from physical discomfort in their dental career, and to retire without a disability. Whether instructing individual clinicians, small or large groups, she is passionate about teaching others to work smarter, not harder. She has been published in DentalTown Magazine and has more articles on the way!

As a competitive bodybuilder and personal trainer, Katrina has attained a unique understanding of the biomechanics behind clinical ergonomics. Her credentials include certification as an Ergonomics Assessment Specialist, which has given her the expertise and training to help provide safer procedures through proper ergonomics.


Thank you to our peeps at Dentsply Sirona for sponsoring our 60th episode holy molar! 

While Irene is at home scratching her hives, her team is eagerly awaiting the training on their brand new and amazingly awesome SiroLaser that has so many features that can be utilized by both doctors and hygienists. 

Irene shares her reasons for patiently awaiting its release here in Canada, some of those reasons being the ability to set procedure fav's for easy use during the treatment time. 

  • Debridement of the diseased epithelial lining
  • Laser removal of diseased, infected, inflamed and necrosed soft tissue within the periodontal pocket
  • Laser soft tissue curettage
  • Sulcular debridement (removal of diseased, infected, inflamed and
    the necrosed soft tissue in the periodontal pocket to
    improve clinical indices including gingival index, gingival bleeding index, probe depth, attachment loss and tooth inability)

Katrina shares some important information on the recent investigation around pathogen reduction with Lasers and the connection to ultrasonics, aerosols and a very informative article written by Noel Paschke titled, "A Path of Fewer Aerosols with Ultrasonics" 

Click on the links below to learn more about both the laser and a direct link to the article: 


Noel Paschke titled, "A Path of Fewer Aerosols with Ultrasonics" 


Find Katrina Klein online:

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Pamela Maragliano-Muniz, DMD 

Welcome back peeps! Happy new year to all the dental professionals out there STILL killing it in 2021.

A big thank you to our peeps at Hu-Friedy for supporting this amazing episode. Here are the link we mentioned! 

Irene's FAV N95 Mask is here- Isolater Plus N95 Masks by Crosstex 

It is so comfortable, lightweight and easy to wear. Irene LOVES how well her loupes fit around the nose and really reduces the pressure on her overall face without losing that amazing and important seal of protection! 

Try out the sterilization quiz and let's see how on point you are with your protocols! 2021 is here and if we haven't already sharpened our pencils to update our office policies and infection control standards now is the time and Hu-Friedy has all the resources you need to get it done! Click HERE to teleport to their neatly organized website that provides amazing resources from dental organizations, CDC, OSAP and OSHA just to name a few. 

Today we are happy to have Dr. Pamela Maragliano-Muniz, a board-certified prosthodontist. She offers advice for new dental hygienists, walks us through her experience failing the board exams, and answers all of our questions:

  • How hard is a clinical dental hygiene board exam in the US?
  • How does a hygienist open their own practice?
  • What is a dental hygienists’ role in a prosthodontic practice?
  • Is it legal to perform dental surgery on a dead body?

Dr. Pam has blazed a remarkable trail in her career. She earned her certificate from the UCLA School of Dentistry. After obtaining her D.M.D. from Tufts University School of Dental Medicine. She is also a former dental hygienist:  she earned her B.S.D.H. degree from Northeastern University and the Forsyth School for Dental Hygienists, A.A.S. in Dental Hygiene and A.S. degree in Math and Science from SUNY Orange in New York. 

Since being awarded the 2010 Adult Preventive Care Practice of the Year by the American Dental Association, Dr. Maragliano-Muniz is an internationally recognized lecturer and is extensively published. She has also been recognized as Incisal Edge Magazine’s Top 40 Under 40 in 2016. In 2017, she was awarded the Edward A. Diana alumni award for Leadership in Healthcare from SUNY Orange and Dental Product Report’s Top 25 Women in Dentistry.  She has additionally been recognized as Boston Magazine’s Top Dentists in 2017, 2018, 2019 and 2020.

Dr. Maragliano-Muniz is the Chief Editor for, Editorial Director for the Dental Academy of Continuing Education, Chief Development Officer for Cellerant Consulting Group, teaches at Tufts University School of Dental Medicine and maintains her private practice at Salem Dental Arts in Salem, MA.

Dr. Maragliano-Muniz maintains professional memberships with the following organizations: American Dental Association, Massachusetts Dental Society, American College of Prosthodontists, American Academy of Fixed Prosthodontics, American Academy of Dental Sciences, Spear Study Club

On a personal note, Dr. Maragliano-Muniz enjoys travel, yoga, outdoor activities and spending time with her family and pets. 


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Namaste, peeps!

Dr. Christian and Dr. Danielle AKA the Dental Yogis join us for their second guest appearance on the podcast (listen to their first appearance here!). The Dental Yogis talk about bringing spirituality not only into the dental setting but into all of our daily lives. In the words of Dr. Christian, it is this couples’ goal to bring a postural awareness gained through yoga into a comprehensive dentistry practice. The Yogis talk about their history of extremely difficult and life-affirming decisions to get where they are now. 


When Christian and Danielle are not hosting Yoga classes for dental professionals on Instagram live, they are collaborating on holistic smile transformation surgery which accounts for the mind-body and spirit of every patient. Their radically compassionate form of dentistry approaches oral surgery as a wellness retreat, where the smile is only one factor in a whole-body transformation.

 The Dental Yogis also go into detail on how they devised an upcoming service trip/wellness retreat in the Dominican Jungle, where dentists and hygienists can provide dental services to the Dominican population while becoming acquainted with their body, mind, and the energy that surrounds us all. Read all about the retreat which takes place from Feb. 7-14 on their website at


The Dental Yogis’ Bio:


Dr. Danielle Cascioli and Dr. Cristian Pavel practice dentistry about 10 miles apart in downtown Chicago, but something much deeper connects them. The couple, who have been together since before dental school, share a love for yoga, and they want to introduce the benefits of the ancient discipline to their colleagues in the profession.

“As dentists, we most commonly express our souls through our art and service to our communities,” Dr. Pavel said. “Practicing yoga helps to highlight these expressions in order to bring more joy and awareness onto every aspect of our profession. Having a deeper connection with yourself also allows for much richer connections with your patients and an overall richer life experience.”

Drs. Cascioli and Pavel teach yoga and offer life coaching to other dental professionals through a practice called the Dental Yogis. They’ve developed a program that uses the principles of yoga and its physical, mental and spiritual disciplines to provide students “the freedom to create a transformation map towards the life of your dreams.”


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Welcome back, Peeps! 


Today, the multi-talented and widely accomplished Emily Boge MPA, RDH, CDA joins us to tell us about her career from the beginning. Emily’s story begins on a hog farm in rural Iowa where she and her 10 siblings grew up. We follow her through her early education, where she played the sousaphone (Katrina psychically intuits this) and invented a motion-activated flycatcher called the “Fly-Vacuum”, which won her a full ride to the University of Iowa. 


Today, Emily Boge designs dental instruments, is a Dental Administrative Chair and is an active speaker and writer in the dental community. Her innovative spirit is apparent in her work and her drive to push skills to new limits. It is such a joy to have this lifelong academic on our show to talk about the state of dental hygienist programs and what dental school is really all about.

We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • How hard should dental courses be?
  • What does it take to be a great dental educator?
  • Is it worth going to dental school during the Covid-19 pandemic?
  • How do you find time to write while working overtime?
  • How has the pandemic affected dental programs?


Emily Boge in her own words:

Emily Boge, MPA, RDH, CDA is the Dental Administrative Chair at Hawkeye Community College in Waterloo, Iowa. In this role, she serves the Dental Assisting and Dental Hygiene Program students, the faculty of the programs, and the staff of the Dental Clinic. Prior to accepting this position in July of 2015, she practiced as a full-time dental hygienist at Dental Associates of Manchester in Manchester, Iowa. In addition to working at the College, she maintains an active career completing research, product development, and evaluation of products for several major dental companies. She also enjoys speaking and writing research for professionals and facts for consumers in dentistry. She enjoys all facets of dental hygiene and dentistry and prides herself on thinking outside the box when it comes to dental innovation and practice standards; especially when she can apply new ideas to clinical techniques that improve the current standard of care. Emily designed and marketed the Boge513™ scaler, sold by American Eagle Instruments. This instrument won the 2017 Dental Excellence Award: Best New Instrument/Device. Emily also designed the Centennial Scaler, manufactured by Hu-Friedy Instruments. Emily graduated from Hawkeye Community College Dental Assisting (2000) and Dental Hygiene (2003) Programs prior to completing her Bachelor’s in Psychology with a focus in Gerontology (2012) and a Master’s in Public Administration (2015) at Upper Iowa University, and values lifelong education. She is a current doctoral student at Franklin University in Columbus, OH studying to receive her EdD in Higher EducationOrganizational Leadership. As a native rural Iowan, Emily is married to a fifth-generation family farmer and machinist, and they live on their crop farm with their two sons. Emily enjoys cooking and baking, target shooting, four wheeling, reading, and shopping.

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Howdy Peeps!

Welcome back to episode 56! Holy molar look at us go with awesome and fun content. This week Irene is on an infection control binge which funny enough ties into our awesome sponsor Hu-Friedy. Irene chats about how much she loves the new website format at and specifically the infection control tab that outlines SOOOOO MANY important resources we all should check out. HuFriedyGroup provides a complete circle of protection for practitioners as well as resources for staying up to date on the latest guidelines/regulations from CDC, OSHA, State Boards, and more. 

Today we are joined by Jasmine Capra, dental hygienist and founder of JustFlossIt. She is known for her often hilarious tik tok, her highly informative Instagram, and her now her brand new podcast! We talk at length about the day to day reality of the life of a dental professional and influencer. We have admired Jasmine’s honesty on social media and the way she weaves polished sponsored content into her online personality while never compromising her truest self.

Despite what you've heard, free floss does not pay the bills! Some of the topics covered include negotiating sponsored social media contracts, the real amount of time it takes to be a dental influencer, and visions of a future of a more compassionate and forgiving social media environment.

Pick up the new comfy, cozy, embroidered JustFlossIt crewneck sweater on Jasmine’s website!

We cover some of these topics and much more:

  • How do you negotiate a paid partnership on Instagram?
  • How much is one Instagram post worth?
  • Do you have any advice for a first time sponsored post?
  • How does a dental hygienist respond to rude patients?
  • Will Irene ever win rock, paper, scissors?

Jasmine Capra in her own words:

“To begin, my father came here from Mexico around the age of 16. After pursuing a career as a dental hygienist, he began to enlighten me of the profession. Seeing the profound effect he had on changing people’s smiles and oral health, I knew I had to be apart of it as well. My father later followed his passion by going back to school and becoming a dentist. To me, I view this as the epitome of the “American Dream,” that I am so proud to be apart of.

As a new grad and entering the field, I have decided to share my journey with you all. I created “Justflossit,” as a way to enlighten people not only in the healthcare field but also everybody who is anybody about oral health.

Justflossit partners with brands both locally and internationally from oral healthcare needs to fashion. I pride myself on only standing by products I truly believe in.”

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Join The Dental WINEgenist, The Dental Somm and The Dental Wine Guy as they educate Irene on the beautiful world of wines.  From Bordeaux to New Zealand and every beautiful grape in between, we discuss the incredible ways in which wine brings people together. 

Kingly sponsored by our peeps at Dentsply Sirona. 

Visit Irene's Instagram to check out her implant case using the Cavitron SofTip. For more info on the ultrasonic insert designed for use on implants check out this link or ask your distributor.


Dr Volinder Dhesi:

Volinder S. Dhesi is a 2003 graduate of the University of Saskatchewan. His practices are located in Calgary, Alberta with his scope primarily restorative focused including comprehensive aesthetics and cad/cam dentistry.  He is both a graduate of the Kois Center as well as the Las Vegas Institute.  Currently, he is a Key Opinion Leader for Dentsply Sirona, as well as teaching faculty on Straumann’s Mini-Residency Program. 

Outside of Dentistry, he spends much of his spare time with his wife of 17 years and their 3 children, He is WSET 3 certified in wine in spirits and shares his passion for both wine and dentistry on his Instagram handle @thedentalwineguy.

Dr. Alexandria Balich:  Found on IG @the_dental_somm

A general dentist from Chicago and recently moved to Denver. Between Chicago and Denver, I took 18 months off to travel around the world with my now fiancé. Inspired by the many wineries we saw on our trip I decided to start formally studying wine when we got back to the US. I’ve got my WSET level 1, 2. International wine guild advanced level 2 sommelier and starting my level 3 WSET this fall! 






“I live, eat sleep and breathe ultrasonics”

-Dani Botbyl RDH


Dani Botbyl RDH, the ultrasonic coach and fellow Canadian joins us today with Cosmo in one and an ultrasonic insert in the other to answer all of YOUR questions. Dani is an industry expert when it comes to using ultrasonics and HVE with skill and ease in a time when chairside hygiene is paramount. Dani ‘The Ultrasonic Coach’ Botbyl recognizes that a lot of dental professionals are not using their ultrasonics as they should and offers her wisdom to answer YOUR burning questions about airpolishing, cavitroning, and HVE!


We geeked out big-time on this one and answered these questions and much more:

  • What’s your favourite ultrasonic tip?
  • Is hand-scaling or ultrasonic the gold standard for periodontists in 2020?
  • What’s needed for safe ultrasonic usage during Covid 19?
  • What is high volume evacuation (HVE) and how can we best use it effectively?
  • Can you damage the gingiva with the air polish?
  • Grape, mint, or citrus mint prophy paste?


Happy Ultrasonic-ing!

Dani’s coveted Cosmo recipe:

¼ oz lime juice

½ oz Cointreau/triple sec

1½ oz of Vodka (Only Grey Goose of course)

2½ oz of Cranberry juice


Dani’s Bio:

Dani Botbyl is a registered dental hygienist with several decades of experience devoted to clinical practice and education. In 1999 she joined DENTSPLY Canada (now Dentsply Sirona) as a full-time clinical educator and has become a leading authority in ultrasonic instrumentation. She facilitates more than 70 lectures and workshops each year, lending much of her expertise to incorporating ultrasonics into the curricula of dental and dental hygiene programs worldwide. For more than 10 years, Dani taught part-time at Niagara College. She was editor-in-chief of Preventive Dentistry Canada, a former clinical evaluator and quality assurance assessor with the College of Dental Hygienists of Ontario (CDHO) and served on the Board of Directors for the Ontario Dental Hygienists’ Association (ODHA). The author of several clinically focused articles on ultrasonic instrumentation, Dani maintains a current research interest in standardizing the competence of new dental hygiene graduates in the area of ultrasonics.




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This week, Irene and Katrina “bond” with restorative dentist Dr. Steve Schiffenhaus. Kindly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. Katrina and "shiffy" as we call him, have some fun stories to share about their time in Las Vegas last year for DS World 2019. Register soon, the show starts November 13th and Katrina is very excited about one particular person mentioned numerously in this episode. 

He tells us how to get into dental school with a less-than-stellar GPA: you don’t want to miss that!  He also discusses the transition from a prospective medical school student to rocking it in dental school, what it’s like to work for a DSO, temping as a dentist and buying a practice as a new grad. 

We talk about how to treat patients who have experienced supervised neglect, minimally invasive dentistry and all things rubber dams, microscopes and cameras, Oh My!  

Finally, Dr. Schiffenhaus shares how he grew his Instagram following overnight, how to engage users on Instagram, how to deal with trolls and dinosaurs and specifically promoting to organic and inorganic audiences. 

Check out his bio and his social media pages!


Dr. Schiffenhaus received his Doctoral degree at Midwestern College of Dental Medicine, Arizona as well as an MA in Biomedical Sciences. He received his BS in Molecular Bioscience & Biotechnology and an MS in Molecular & Cellular Biology from Arizona State University. He returned to his alma mater in 2017 to teach dentistry as adjunct faculty for one year. Dr. Schiffenhaus practices with a Biomimetic philosophy utilizing advanced adhesion and CAD-CAM technology to restore teeth as minimally invasive as possible. In 2020, he completed a Master Level training & mentoring program in Biomimetics from Dr. David Alleman Sr. & Jr. who continues to be close mentors. Dr. Schiffenhaus currently teaches and mentors advanced adhesion, biomimetic, and CAD-CAM online and via hands-on workshops.

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This week we are joined by an accomplished dentist and father of Teen Mom star Chelsea Houska, Dr. Randy ‘PapaRandilicious’ Houska! Stay tuned for his extra special and heart-rending Tooth or Dare at the end of the episode.

Big thanks to our sponsors at Dentsply Sirona for this amazing episode and encouraging Irene to get a ProphyJet, she is absolutely obsessed and can not go without using it on nearly every patient. If you want your perio life to be changed, DM Irene so she can rant a bit about how much love she has for this piece of equipment!

A self-described Farm Boy, Randy Houska never had dreams of being a dentist. Growing up in the small town of Mitchell, South Dakota (home of the world’s only corn palace!), Dr. Houska knew he wanted to leave farm life behind and found his way into dental school at the University of Nebraska.

Randy tells the saga of Chelsea’s pregnancy at 16 and her subsequent journey into filming MTV’s “16 and Pregnant” and then “Teen Mom.” emotional growth that came from the show. He talks about the difficulty of being online as an MTV celebrity and swears that, of all social media, Reddit is by far the worst.

Dr. Houska shares information about his work with Implant Pathway and The New Horizon Dental Clinic in Tempe, Arizona where low-income families can receive high-quality healthcare at the lowest possible cost and new dentists can practice dental surgery.

As an MTV star, a father, and a widely experienced dentist, Randy Houska and answers our burning questions:

  • Is Teen Mom scripted?
  • What advice would you give to a teenage mom?
  • As a dentist, how do you approach a patient you suspect might be experiencing abuse at home?
  • Do dads roll into your DM's?
  • Who's your favourite Canadian? 

“You’ve gotta love yourself before you go lookin’ for another man”

-Randy Houska



Dr. Randy Houska was raised in Mitchell, SD on a small farm and received a Bachelor’s of Science degree in Biology at the University of South Dakota. He received his Doctor of Dental Surgery degree from the University of Nebraska Medical Center, College of Dentistry in 1989. His post-graduate plans took him to Vermillion, SD, where he has had a private practice since then. After 25 years of private practice, he found a new love of dentistry focusing on implant dentistry. He can be found several times per year at implant focused on continuing education events.

Professional organizations that he is a member of include: American Dental Association, South Dakota Dental Association, Academy of General Dentistry, American Academy of Implant Dentistry, International Congress of Oral Implantologists. Dr. Houska and his wife, Rita, have six children and several grandchildren. His passion is staying state of the art in dentistry and enjoying family time, boating, golfing, and he spent several years coaching his daughters’ softball teams. Don’t be surprised if you see him enjoying the wind in his face on his Harley Davidson also.

Dr. Houska and his wife are also avid Cornhusker and University of South Dakota Coyote fans and attend their games as much as possible. He is actively involved in the community. He has recently served as a board member on the Vermillion Chamber and Development Company and has been past president of Rotary, United Way of Vermillion, Knights of Columbus, St. Agnes School Board and has been on numerous local committees.



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This episode is kindly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona who know how to celebrate a birthday. Not only did they send Irene some beautiful purple flowers to celebrate National Dental Hygiene Month, but they also supplied Irene with Nupro Freedom cordless polishing unit to share as a Birthday Giveaway on her Instagram page. Head over to @toothlife.Irene better yet CLICK HERE to enter the giveaway before the giveaway ends! 

This week we are joined by the eminent Mia Geisinger, DDS, M.S.

Dr. Geisinger dives in deep, sharing with us the roots of her life in dentistry and the work she does today at the cutting edge of the dental industry. Dr. Geisinger is a treasure to the dental community (and somehow finds time to write poetry while working around the clock?!?) and an incredible advocate for female periodontists and women dentists. We are so happy to have her as a guest on this week's Tooth or Dare.

Mia talks us through the early days of calling EVERY periodontist in Manhattan before landing her first job in a periodontist’s office which would eventually lead to her high-level positions in the American Dental Association.

Dr. Geisinger shares a behind the scenes glimpse of how she and the ADA handled the initial wave of Covid 19 and created guidelines for dental offices that follow the CDC guidelines and how those guidelines have changed over time.

Irene shares her thoughts about protecting patients in the office by making thoughtful and informed choices outside of the office.

Mia’s current projects aim to answer a few questions such as: 

  • Are hygienists better than Dentists at wearing PPE and following sanitary guidelines?
  • How do you deliver oral hygiene to patients with dementia?
  • What is the best perio procedure?
  • Is it possible to have a creative life outside of dentistry?

Mia L. Geisinger, DDS, MS is a Professor and Director of Advanced Education in Periodontology in the Department of Periodontology in the University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB) School of Dentistry. Dr. Geisinger received her BS in Biology from Duke University, her DDS from Columbia University School of Dental Medicine, and her MS and Certificate in Periodontology and Implantology from the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. Dr. Geisinger is a Diplomate in the American Board of Periodontology. She has served as the President of the American Academy of Periodontology Foundation, as the Chair of the American Dental Association’s Council on Scientific Affairs, and on multiple national and regional organized dentistry. She is a fellow of the International Team for Implantology, the American College of Dentists, and the International College of Dentists. She currently serves as a member of the American Academy of Periodontology’s Board of Trustees. She has authored over 45 peer-reviewed publications and her research interests include periodontal and systemic disease interaction, implant dentistry in the periodontally compromised dentition, and novel treatment strategies for oral soft and hard tissue regeneration. She lectures nationally and internationally on topics in periodontology and oral healthcare.


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This week, Irene & Katrina chat with the immediate past President of the ADHA, Matt Crespin, MPH, RDH and kindly sponsored by our friends at Hu-Friedy. Who are celebrating dental hygienists during National dental hygiene month? #showusyourpurple all month and make sure to tag Hu-Friedy in your purple photos to be featured on their page.

Hu-Friedy is also sharing their new Harmony Scaler, Irene got a Harmony H6/H7 the day after this episode was recorded but she is super excited to try it out. The new handle design is a scientifically proven ergonomic hand scaler that reduces pinch force by up to 65% and pressure applied to the tooth by 37%. Increases patient comfort while reducing clinician fatigue.


In this episode, Matt shares his experience in advocacy and project management for community oral health, and how these roles provided opportunities to develop in leadership. Learn how he uses a childhood book to help physicians identify childhood literacy. 


We discussed how he evolved from working at his local component to the state level, then supporting at the national level as a delegate before finally deciding to take the plunge and campaign for President.  Join us as he shares the tipping point that brought him to stepping into ADHA Presidency.  We get a behind-the-scenes look at how Matt ran for President of the ADHA and how serving as President-Elect provided Matt with the coaching he needed to rise as President!


As President of the ADHA during the greatest global pandemic of our lifetime, Matt shares the importance of mentorship programs, vulnerability, learning from past experiences and accepting feedback.  We discuss leadership styles and professional relationships, as well as what Matt’s vision for dental hygiene will mean for us in this post-COVID era.  Finally, Matt reminds us that his growth mindset comes from a place of being comfortable with being uncomfortable.

Mic drop!


Stay tuned for our shout outs to some of our favourite ADHA members!




Matt Crespin, MPH, RDH

Associate Director

Children’s Health Alliance of Wisconsin

Matt received his Bachelor of Science Degree in Health Sciences/Dental Hygiene from Marquette University in 2002 and his Masters in Public Health from A.T. Still University in 2010. Prior to his promotion to Associate Director with Children’s Health Alliance of Wisconsin in 2011, Matt served as an oral health project manager at the Alliance from 2006-11. Prior to his work at the Alliance, Matt worked as a clinical dental hygienist in private practice for several years in the Milwaukee suburbs.


As associate director of the Alliance, Matt directs both the oral health and early childhood literacy programs along with providing operational support to the entire organization. The oral health program at the Alliance includes the Wisconsin Seal-A-Smile program, Wisconsin Medical-Dental Integration Project and the Wisconsin Oral Health Coalition. Wisconsin Seal-A-Smile is the state school-based dental sealant program and has grown under his direction to serve more than 80,000 children in 1,050 schools across Wisconsin. Matt has been successful in increasing funding at the Alliance through local, state and federal grants and partnerships. Matt’s advocacy efforts include successfully keeping several major Wisconsin cities fluoridated and leading a coalition of partners to increase settings where dental hygienists can work independently.   


Matt is a member of various local, state and national associations, advisory boards, councils and committees. Matt has been involved in creating, protecting and promoting oral health policy across Wisconsin and nationally through his work at the Alliance. Matt served as chair of the Children’s Dental Health Project’s Sealant Workgroup. Matt also served on the most recent expert panel convened by the American Dental Association to review the clinical guidelines for the placement of dental sealants published in 2016.


Since 2015 Matt has served on the Board of Trustees of the American Dental Hygienists’ Association. In 2019-20, Matt served as the first male President of ADHA in the association’s nearly 100-year history and currently still on the board as the Immediate Past President. Matt has served in various other board and committee roles at the state and national level for many years. Matt speaks and has been published nationally on a variety of topics including oral health workforce policy, school-based dental sealants, the use of dental sealants in clinical practice, community water fluoridation and the use of other fluoride-containing therapies.


Matt was featured in Modern Hygienist Magazine in 2007 in a feature on men making their mark in dental hygiene. Matt was named the Young Hispanic Professional of Greater Milwaukee by the Hispanic Professionals of Greater Milwaukee and received the Distinguished Alumnus in Dental Hygiene Award from Marquette University in 2009. In 2016, Matt received the Wisconsin Public Health Association’s Distinguished Service to Public Health Award and the Wisconsin Dental Hygienists’ Association Carol B. Benson Award for Outstanding Service to Dental Hygiene. In 2017 Matt was selected as one of “Six Dental Hygienists You Want to Know” by Dimensions of Dental Hygiene Magazine.  Matt currently lives in New Berlin, Wisconsin with his wife Laura and son Connor and enjoys camping, travelling and cycling.


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Today we have a very special guest Ana Bogdanovic, who takes us on a trip down memory lane through the days of bottle service, breast cancer, and bespoke dental laboratory marketing. Ana comes from two extremely talented dental parents, but she wasn’t always convinced that dentistry was her path.

She had a degree in marketing and worked in the service industry (when she first met Irene!) founded a successful up and coming jewelry company, but wasn’t totally sure of where life would take her. At 24, Ana was diagnosed with breast cancer. While breast cancer at such a young age is almost unheard of, Ana tells us she would go through every minute of chemo again because of the person it has helped her become.

Fast forward to today: Ana Bogdanovic has successfully created the Zann Dental Lab brand and image. She has brought her marketing expertise to the dental laboratory world and made her mark in the field, offering personalized and frankly beautiful design to her lab and professional newsletter. She walks us through the steps of making this dental business into a reality and how she navigated the unsure times in her life and career.

Ana dispenses some radical wisdom and answers some important questions, including:

● How do we find our passion for dentistry?

● How can I make my dental brand special?

● Is cancer painful?

● How can we see the humanity in our patients?

● How can we exceed expectations as a dental professional?

Ana drops some serious knowledge about learning to love oneself while pursuing her career aspirations that remain true to who we are.

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The quadrants of a circle with Corey Jameson-Kuehl of Custom Dental Solutions.

This week, Irene and Katrina chat with Corey Jameson-Kuehl of Custom Dental Solutions kingly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. 


Join Irene and Katrina as they BOTH take the DS World stage. Register asap for November 13th to listen to world-class presentations and join the discussion groups. Head over to DentsplySirona.Com or click the hyperlink to register. 

Corey shares her journey as a dental hygienist who always felt a bit different and wanted to expand outside of clinical hygiene.  We talk about finding your “why”, using personality typing for match-making and emotional intelligence.

We discuss DISC Profiling:

Dominant: fast-paced, solution-oriented

Influence: magnetic, positivity

Steady: team-oriented, listeners

Compliance: analytical, fact-based

We talk about conflict resolution, understanding the various dimensions of how to control your own emotions as well as how to use DISC to communicate with patients.

Corey gives us the secret sauce on how to address conflict both professionally and personally as well as how to establish a well-rounded team. We learn about how to ensure Irene and her husband are both living their best life and … well… how to help Katrina in her sad dating life.

Finally, check out our tooth/dare for this week… to our listeners at home: would YOU accept this?


Corinne Jameson-Kuehl, RDH, BS has been involved in the business of dentistry for over 20 years.  She is an experienced dental business owner with background experiences as a private practice clinician, practice development administrator and previous dental staffing company founder and owner.

Corinne’s professional interests include writing articles and presenting continuing education to dental audiences across the nation.  She is the regional coordinator for the  Oral Cancer Foundation and was the 2016 recipient of the Sunstar Butler Award of Distinction.  Her professional memberships include: ADA, ADHA, Seattle Study Club, AADOM, AADH.  Along with Dental and Business education, Corinne holds numerous Human Resources certifications including DISC, Driving Forces and Emotional Intelligence to better ensure employment success!

Corinne and her team at Custom Dental Solutions provide “hands-on” practical business development and proven solutions to owners of small businesses focusing mainly on private practice dental offices.  It brings her great reward to see her clients navigate changes successfully in their personal and professional lives.




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They are salty, packed with nutrition… and they are delicious!  Why are we talking about Peanuts?  Check out this week’s episode in which Irene & Katrina chat with Pediatric guru Dr. Jeanette MacLean Kindly Sponsored by our peeps at Dentsply Sirona! 

DID you know DS World 2020 has gone virtual? With this epic lineup of speakers, you don't want to miss out on the chance to see all your fav peeps in one place. 

Register to hear Irene AND Katrina speak among a ton of other amazing speakers this coming November.


We talk all things Jazzercise (yes, you read that right), “designer snacks” and challenges with integrating fluoride into a pediatric office. 

Dr. MacLean talks about her service trips out of the country, the joys of seeing her patients grow up, watching “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” while working and bringing in the comedy to dentistry. 

We discuss the indications for referral to a pediatric dentist, ways to improve the pediatric patient experience, looking at unique “parenting” styles and how to chat with an anti-fluoridationists.

She throws down on minimally invasive dental procedures: diet & hygiene counselling, motivational interviewing and reducing trauma during the dental appointment.  She shares what’s trending right now in pediatric dentistry, specifically SDF and Glass Ionomer. 

If you haven’t read an article she’s written or heard her speak before, you’re missing out!  Check out Dr. Jeanette MacLean:  Dr. Jeanette MacLean is a Diplomate of the American Board of Pediatric Dentistry, Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry, owner of Affiliated Children’s Dental Specialists in Glendale, Arizona, and mother of two.  She received her dental degree, with honours, from the University of Southern California in 2003 and completed her specialty training in pediatric dentistry in 2005 at Sunrise Children’s Hospital through the University of Nevada School of Medicine.  Dr. MacLean has become an internationally recognized advocate and expert on minimally invasive dentistry, appearing in newspapers, magazines, television, and continuing education lectures on this hot topic.  Most notably, she was featured in the July 2016 New York Times article “A Cavity Fighting Liquid Helps Kids Avoid Dentists’ Drills,” which brought national attention to the option of treating cavities non-invasively with silver diamine fluoride.

 Thanks to SDF and GIC she no longer even offers in-office IV sedation!! :-). Learn more:





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This episode of the tooth or dare podcast is brought to you by our awesome peeps @ Dentsply Sirona! Shouts to DS and their amazing collaborations with podcasts and educational events like THE ULTIMATE PERIO SYMPOSIUM.  Register for this amazing program.   Check out the 9 hour CE our friend Katrina is delivering alongside Joy Raskie. These ladies will be unpacking a ton of info on how to implement advanced periodontal therapies in your everyday general practices. 

This episode the ladies of the TOD podcast interview Edgar the OG gangster @guygienist. Edgar is so cool, fun, smart and has devoted his entire career to educating dental assistants in the navy. Edgar is newly retired and shares what it takes to be an educator in such a unique dental hygiene scope of practice. 

Edgar shared a twist to his career with the TOD ladies. 

Tune in to hear his story and be sure to give him a like and follow on Instagram. If you're interested in learning more about his career path Edgar is always a DM away. 

Instagram @guygienist 

Watch the dare @Toothordare.podcast on Instagram 

Tap a follow and be sure to follow Irene and Katrina too!

This episode was recorded LIVE at Greater NY in 2020 at the RDH Magazine Booth and due to our host being delayed we had an amazing co-host Amber Auger @amberaugerrdh step in. Her second time on the podcast!

This Episode is generously sponsored my our friends at Dentsply Sirona who are going strong with re-releasing webinars.
Recently Irene has been on an implant maintnance kick and watched an awesome webinar by Dr. Timothy Donley.
Cluck on the link below to learn more about implant maintnance and peri-implantitis
-------> Click here for Dr. Donley dropping knowledge <--------- The ladies talk fitness with Hadeer Scolaro, @fitlittlehygienist, a dental hygenist from New Jersey who helps promote health and wellness amongst the dental community. She emphasizes consistency at the gym, the power of breakfast, and gives a run down of her diet.

Irene uses for her nutritional meal prepping.

All three of us use the Myfitnesspal app.

Amber goes through the basics of Orange Theory workouts which Irene has since started but sadly Covid has crushed her spirits.

The power of eating and moving to help the longevity of this field of work.

Irene shares a secret about how to determine the amount of sugar in a bottle of wine, fun fact that has become super useful to many people in her lectures.

We finish off by asking Hadeer some rapid fire questions and a classic game of Tooth or Dare Followed by a very amazing Dare that was seen my hundreds of people on the show floor.

We ask Irene General Questions such as:

 Irene answers Dr. Costes’ questions about the business of dentistry:

  • What did the buildout cost?

    • HUGE shout out to Patterson Dental, Hu-Friedy and Dentsply Sirona for their amazing support!
  • How did you apply for a business loan?
  • We discuss business plans and profitability.  Mark and Irene geek out on practice management software.
  • Learn why you need to include an accountant/financial planner and an attorney in business development.

 We talk about how Irene is building out her office:

  • Irene discloses how much of a nerd she is by sharing “I live and breathe PowerPoint and Excel”. 
  • We discuss her “mood board” including a coffee bar!
  • We discuss equipment, including how Irene is changing the legislation around

We get provocative: thoughts from a dentist on a hygienist opening her own office.  Is there a territorial concern there?  And finally, Irene shares her one piece of advice for RDHs who are thinking of starting their own practice. 

You do NOT want to miss Dr. Mark Costes’ final words to us.  It truly reminds us of the WHY behind our work.  Thank you endlessly to our co-host, Dr. Mark Costes, for sharing insight and for drilling (pun intended) Irene on her business plan. 


Dr. Mark Costes is far from a typical dentist and dental coach. During his career, he has been able to start or acquire over a dozen successful dental practices during some of the profession’s most challenging times. But Dr. Costes’s journey was not without its setbacks. In fact, he credits much of his success to the fact that he made more mistakes in his first year of private practice ownership than most dentists make in an entire career. What separated him from the masses, however, was the fact that he viewed each failure and roadblock as a learning experience and an opportunity to improve his business and life. This philosophy, as well as his decision to model the world’s most successful entrepreneurs and dentists, has led him to where he is today.

Dr. Costes is an international keynote speaker and the founder of the Dental Success Institute, a company committed to helping dentists to achieve their full potential while recapturing their passion for dentistry. He is also the co-founder and CEO of the Dental Success Network, a vibrant community of dentists from around the globe focused on maximizing access to advanced clinical and practise management education to the profession. Dr. Costes is the International and #1 Amazon Best Selling Author of the book Pillars of Dental Success. His internet radio show, The Dentalpreneur Podcast now has listenership from over 150 countries worldwide. Mark and his wife Leslie have three sons; Bryce, Brendan, Brady and their dog Bear. They live in Prescott, AZ.

Dr. Howard Farran DDS, MBA

Another epic recorded live at Voices of Dentistry and kindly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. DS has been consistent and amazing in providing continuing education online while we have all struggled with being home due to COVID. Here are some links to complimentary CE that Katrina will be doing in the coming weeks generously sponsored by Dentsply Sirona. 

Click ----> HERE <------- To view and register! 

We go back in time with the sometimes absurd, mostly irreverent, and always hilarious Howard

Farran DDS, MBA and talk through his career to discover how he became the dentist he is

today. The man needs no introduction, but I’ll give one anyway. Dr. Farran is the founder & CEO

of Dentaltown, Orthotown, Hygienetown, an International lecturer, and the host of one of the

most-listened-to dentistry podcasts, Dentistry Uncensored.

Dr. Howard Farran opened his first dental office in Phoenix, Arizona right out of college with no

patients, no mentor, and no nearly no money. He lays out exactly how a dentistry grad can build

a business from the ground up in a city they’ve never even visited. The dental business guru

answers our burning questions about his work such as:

● How do you build a dedicated following?

● How do you make money off a podcast?

● How do you get guests?

● How can I land more speaking gigs?

● What does a Polish man give his wife on their wedding night that’s long and hard?

Dr. Farran has built a brand with his strong business sense and an entirely profane sense of

humour. He is a great example of how folks in the industry can build a business alongside their

work as a hygienist or dentist while staying true to themselves.


Find Howard Farran online:

IG: @HowardFarran

FB: @HowardFarran



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Martelle Coke, RDH is the founder and CEO of BrownGirl RDH. She shares the remarkable true story of her upbringing, which was spent in hotels, her mother selling crack to feed ten children. Martelle was responsible for raising her younger siblings. She knew from a young age that dentistry was her dream job. She worked toward that goal while raising five children, facing medical issues, and suffering physical and emotional abuse. She successfully became an RDH and started her own non-profit in spite of massive racial inequality and financial hardship.

Martelle created BrownGirl RDH, a non-profit organization promoting cultural diversity within the dental hygiene field, in April 2018. Her entrepreneurial spirit seems to arise out of a deep sense of compassion to offer assistance to people who have struggled in the same ways she did. She started the business completely out of pocket, offering scholarships with her own money. She now offers 12 scholarships a year, based on need, with no deadline attached. She hopes to increase that number to 24 scholarships a year.

As stated on, statistics show that minorities represent less than 4% of dental hygienists. Martelle speaks about attending dental conferences and counting the few black and brown bodies in a sea of white people. She points out how black speakers at these very events are paid less than their white counterparts.

Systemic racism pervades the dental industry. We are so thankful to Martelle Coke for coming on and telling her story, and helping us understand how we can become more impactful allies to friends and colleagues of colour in our lives and in our work.

The Tooth or Dare podcast sees you, hears you and stands with you. BLACK LIVES MATTER 

Please consider donating to the Brown Girl RDH non-profit here:

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IG: @browngirlRDH


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The Hygiene Gangster

Live from Voices of Dentistry: Kindly supported by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. 

DS has released a new section to its website titled "Managing Aerosols" This resource provides great information on things like

  1. Possible transmission routes of COVID-19 in a dental office

  2.  Aerosols generated by handpieces and ultrasonic scaling – current recommendations

 Principles of blocking possible transmission routes in a dental office

Further here is the link to the webinar Katrina mentioned- Pump Up the Volume! A Multi-Layered Strategy for Effectively Managing Aerosols


Melissa Sottosanti AKA The Hygiene Gangster. On this episode

of the Tooth or Dare Podcast, Melissa, a badass entrepreneur and dental hygienist, shares her

dental journey and how she built a brand and started her own business while working as an

RDH. Her website is the result of years of work learning graphic

design and business ownership. She is currently developing classes for budding entrepreneurs

in the dental industry and is in the process of publishing two children's books! She is a singular

personality and her brand speaks true to who she is.

The Hygiene Gangster shares the origin story of her name and business. She answers many of

our questions such as:

● How do you build an authentic brand?

● How should one create a business?

● What the hell is an LLC and why do I need one?

Melissa is a terrific example of how to combine one’s own interests to live a fulfilling creative and

professional career. Her advice for creative souls: Write down what you want to do, and do it, on

the side, at night, take a class. You avoid burnout in your career and build something along the



Follow Melissa:

Ig: @hygiene_gangster


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This is a very special episode. 

Dr. Alan mean is an open book with us about his drug and alcohol use as a practicing dentist, he shares where it started, how it progressed and the details about getting and staying sober. 

This episode is not your classic Irene/Katrina episode slightly off-brand but a necessary topic we probably can all relate to in some way shape or form. 

To reach out to Dr. Alan Mead:


Facebook: Dental Hacks Nation

Instagram: @Dentalhack_al

Much thanks to our buddy Alan for sharing his personal info with us. He is always there for a good chat so feel free to slide into his DM's. He is one of the best humans we know. 

If you want to meet the man in real life, check out Voices of Dentistry and come by to attend the awesome conference. 

Amanda, a deaf dental hygenist, started her career as an NFL cheerleader. She appeared on MTV's
True Life for pursuing a role as a professional cheerleader. She cheerleaded for a soccer team in Baltimore
until ultimately landing a cheerleading position with the Philadelphia Eagles.

Northern Virginia Community College offered Amanda guidance and hands on help to ameliorate the difficulties of being a deaf person in hygeine school.

The ladies talk about finding the perfect dental home when moving to a new town and failing boards exams and the difference in examiners from test to test.
Irene found Amanda's instagram account the night before we recorded this super last min episode where Katrina wasn't even a co-host yet!
Here is the link to the photo we mentioned on Amanda's Instagram account that made Irene KNOW, we needed to share her story.

Amanda shares with us her journey of triumphs and defeats in the dental world
 as well as a very special announcement about her family!

She also shares how hygenists can best accomodate for dental patients that are deaf.

"I encourage people to break down the barriers. There's no reason for anything to hold them back. Life can be easy." -Amanda

Videos about her Journey:
Blog: ig: @that.deaf.girl

Here are some awesome FREE CE courses to tune into brought to you by Dentsply Sirona: 

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations - Are you in Compliance?

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations – Are you in Compliance? - Part 2


What is up PEEPS! This week we had the pleasure of chatting with an RDH living legend. Jo-Anne Jones is a household name in the CE world. Fellow Canadian and a huge advocate for dental hygiene, oral health awareness and isn't afraid to have the word SEX in a lecture title. 

This episode was recorded during dental hygiene week in Canada and smack in the middle of Oral Cancer awareness month. 

Jo-Anne has some amazing knowledge to drop on oral cancer screening tools and has worked with some awesome companies that provide solutions to all dental peeps. One in particular that Irene is now obsessed with called Throat Scope. A super affordable resource for anyone to use chairside that will assist with providing better lighting for our intraoral assessments. 

Throat Scope should be in all of our ops - Irene's humble opinion.  check out the link to view some awesome photos on how the product works. 

In this episode Jo-Anne share some "must do" oral cancer screening methods for every dental person out there. Irene struggles with directions as per usual. 

To contact Jo-Anne Jones visit: 

Instagram: @jjlifeandtimes

Facebook: jo-anne jones

Her epic articles and future speaking engagements are all on her website:



Dr. Erin Elliott - Changing the Way People Breathe (and Sleep!)

Kindly sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona and recorded live at Voices of Dentistry!

In this episode, Irene and Katrina chat about the importance of staying up with CE during this downtime from private practice. Irene watched an awesome webinar about how to handle a global pandemic. 

Here are some awesome FREE CE courses to tune into brought to you by Dentsply Sirona: 

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations - Are you in Compliance?

Current Infection Prevention Protocols and Recommendations – Are you in Compliance? - Part 2


Instagram: @erinelliottdds


Podcast: The ZZZ Pack


Are you or a loved one not getting the sleep they deserve? This episode will give you some wow moments about airway and breathing issues. 

This week we are thrilled to invite Dr. Erin Elliott to the show. Dr. Elliott specializes in dental

sleep medicine. She has spearheaded a movement in dentistry to help dentists and patients

identify the signs of Obstructive Sleep Apnea (OSA) and eliminate the myriad problems caused

by this condition.


In this podcast, Dr. Erin Elliott answers tons of our questions such as:

● Can a dentist diagnose sleep apnea?

● Should a dentist or RDH tell a patient if they are at risk for broader medical conditions?

● What are the telltale signs of sleep apnea?

● Is there a special checklist a dental hygienist can use to help identify obstructive sleep


● Could melatonin be a cause of sleep apnea?

We are pleased to present to the dental community:


The Elliott Evaluator is linked below and can be found on our website

Dr. Elliott has created a visual checklist for all dental peeps to help identify signs of sleep


Click here to download Dr. Erin Elliott's checklist for sleep signs in the mouth. 

Click the link above, print it out, and use it in your practice!


What to look for when identifying sleep apnea:

● Bruxing wear (treating the airway makes bruxing events go down)

● Scalloped tongue

● Airway swelling

● Acid Reflux


The Big 4: If a patient has a history of these, they are at risk for OSA:

● Hypertension

● Acid Reflux medication

● Anti-depressants

● Diabetes medication


Dental hygienists have an opportunity to make a life-changing difference to the health and

the well-being of patients by asking patients these simple questions. Hygienists can be powerful

educators in the time they spend by the patients’ side.


Dr. Erin Elliott’s Links:

Dr. Erin Elliott's webinar will give you an overview of dental sleep medicine and how you can

improve your patients' health and quality of life.



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Dr. Brian Harris



DM him even with 435K followers he checks every message!

Everyone goes through the shift in dentistry where they wonder what they want to do;

for Dr. Harris, it was smile design.

His wife helped him trailblaze an avenue for his social media presence, she said: "if this is what

you like, it's what you should do." Women are wise!


After Dr. Harris started branching out and doing consults via Instagram, People started reaching out

and he started virtual consults which became a very popular way of doing

smile design. His life changed after this as people started organically reaching out

through word of mouth referrals. He found a way to show what he was great at and people responded. He grew his practice

in this way through word of mouth referrals. The success was such that he started Smile Virtual.

Smile Virtual is a certification course where Dr. Harris consults dentists on how exactly to build an online

presence to build the practice that they want using video consultation software that he has created.


Some topics we cover with Dr. Harris' path in dentistry:

- So many dentist's miss out on being social on social media. It gives them a

chance to market to a huge audience of millennials.

- Dr. Brian Harris started giving digital consults for smile construction via Instagram

- His background at Arizona State and grew up in a family of dentists

- The day to day of his dental practice, how he shifted from general dentistry to only doing smile design cases.

- How and why you should always tell a patient if they are not a good fit. You should be honest with a patient if you feel it

won't work out. 

- It's not about the money, but it's about the people, but it’s also about the money.



Dr. Brian Harris leaves us with a powerful message:
"If you have a good idea, it should be explained in 15 minutes. Don’t make it boring as F***."

We felt this was the perfect episode to drop in light of the current global events. It was a perfect depiction of how the world is adapting to a digital approach.
Our generous friends at Dentsply Sirona sponsored this live episode at Voices of Dentistry and feel the same way about going digital and allowing us to connect.
In this episode, we discuss what we ought to be doing and using when treating patients. This episode is dedicated to all the RDH perio slayers working right now.
Perhaps we all have learned lessons about risk management for ourselves and patients.

The product we discussed is the PureVac high volume evacuation system. Perhaps a good addition to your practice.
Here are some great resources to use that discusses how this product reduces aerosols exponentially AND provides a truly ergonomic way to using an HVE very different than the conventional systems.

I like this youtube video that shows how it's used and the benefits of HVE vs. standard suction

Katrina video with PureVac! 

Instagram: @restoredsmiles

Jedidiah Huss joins us to talk about his work as a dental surgeon and teacher. He has private practices in Westlake Village and Moorpark, if you’re in the area, go see Dr. Huss! & Live from the Orapharma booth @ GNY Dr. Huss got popular on instagram posting his implant surgeries online. He takes photos and videos of his patients as he performs surgery on them. Combining social media, dentistry and education. It isn’t as simple as it looks. Dr. Huss shares some advice about how he makes it all work for him and how he uses his instagram as an educational tool. Dr. Huss does work with the Brighter Way non-profit foundation created “to provide comprehensive oral health care for vulnerable adults, children, veterans, those experiencing homelessness, and individuals with special needs.” He teaches practical, hands-on courses to help dentist’s learn new oral surgeries on his website:

Preferences for surgery: -Guided vs. Unguided -Cone beam?

Irene speaks on her writing process Dr. Huss talks about taking a step back to enjoy the impact of the work dental surgeons do. Giving people a chance to change Erin Huss, his wife, writes comedic mystery fiction! Find her at Jedidiah Huss dares Irene to do yoga poses on the Greater New York convention floor.


Dr Joshua Austin 
ig: @joshuaaustindds
Use Promo Code "Josh"

Dr. Gina Dorfman ig: @DrGinaD

Our friends Dr. Joshua Austin and Dr. Gina Dorfman join us on Tooth or Dare, today!

Both Josh and Gina own dental practices and run their own dental podcasts.

Gina’s podcast, Behind the Smiles, focuses on dental practice management and clinical topics. On her show, she hosts interviews the best of the best in the dentistry biz.

Josh’s podcast, Working Interferences Dental Podcast, covers topics that the average dentist faces. No question is too controversial on Working Interferences. Listen to their latest episode with our very own host, Irene! Episode 102: Fireball Scope with Toothlife.Irene

Irene is at the “shave my head” moment of opening her new dental practice in Toronto and gets some advice from these industry experts.

Gina's approach is old school: She has come to the understanding that the good work and care you provide in your office will translate to great reviews and happy patients. She has curated a presence in her community that does not rely on internet marketing. An efficient office structure has led to the organic growth of her practice and how she created Yapi, a digital practice managmane tool with cloudbased charts and easy to use forms.

Josh shares with us the newest tool he has been using called Schedule Widget that helped him gain 78 new patients in 8 months. He values ease of booking on the patient side, advocating for multiple ways for people to book appointments that cater to different types of people. When it comes down to the basics of running a dental practice, Dr. Austin advises, "Value peoples time, if we run on time, patients are thrilled. Efficiency differentiates us... Make it as easy as possible for people to sign up and be easy to work with."

We talk meditation, relaxation, not shaving your head, and what to do if and when nothing goes according to plan.

Irene shares a truth she recently has adapted “Other people’s opinion of you is none of your business”

Live @ VOD sponsored by our friends at Dentsply Sirona. 
Huge shoutouts to Allison Zora who came in for the save with
3 glasses of wine and cookies during this recording live in Arizona.
WIrene is doing a Dentsply Giveaway on her instagram @Toothlife.Irene
this week of the new Neuphro Freedom Polisher and some cool stuff,
Don't miss out go check out the giveaway!
This Episode features two very amazing people that have some advice
for Irene who is a few weeks out from opening her first practice.
She's currently struggling with hiring staff and creating a
professional vibe in the office. Irene and Katrina have some serious questions for our two amazing guests.

Our first guest is Chris Sallerno, Editor in Chief of Dental Economics Magazine

Practice management event article by Irene about her trip to the Principals of Practice Managment Course

Chris is a general dentist practicing in Melville, Long Island. He shares the low-down on opening a practice, the fear of opening
a new practice and gives Irene some pointers for opening her new dental practice.

His advice for those opening their first practice include: -When to book patients -Common mistakes of opening -Who to hire for a new practice -HIRE SLOWLY, FIRE QUICKLY -How to write job descriptions -How to interview

Business Plans are an essential part of opening a practice.

Chris uses the business model canvas by Osterwalder

How and why to consider a target market

Find Chris on instagram @the_curious_dentist

---------------------------------- Our second guest is Missy Fryer, who owns a practice with her husband.
Missy has some out of the ordinary, yet extremly effective interviewing
techniques that she shares with us in this episode!

Irene talks about the excitment of opening her own new practice and the hiring process.

Missy goes through her essential criteria and the entire process of hiring for a dental practice.

-She shares with the ladies her simple math problem she asks everyone she hires to her practice. -Missy and her husband opened a practice outside of Cleveland, Ohio and operate a website where they consult on how to properly run a practice smoothly. -She demonstrates the importance of spelling on applications -Missy says You need your systems written down so that staff can be uniformly trained.

Find more of Missy's spreadsheets, advice, and information on how to run a dental office at
Follow her on Instagram @Buckeyeproductions

Thanks for tuning in peeps
your friends
@Toothlife.Irene and @thedentalwinegenist


HUGE shout outs to:
1. Our besties at Dentsply Sirona for sponsoring this episode AND bringing Irene to Arizona!
2. Our friends in the managment department of Voices of Dentistry
(Alan and Jason) thanks for supporting the Ginger/Canadian Podcast team.
2. Thanks to the bartenders at the Hilton Hotel in Scottsdale- Respect.

Dr. Danny Domingue DDS is the host of the AAID podcast and runs a
private practice in LA. When he is not making mission trips to Mexico,
pulling teeth for free, he is 3D printing dental and auricular prostheses
like a #BOSS
On this episode Dr. Domingue relates a harrowing story about his
reconstruction of a prosthetic, 3D printed ear for a man who suffered
a work-related injury.
He talks us step by step exactly how he performed this landmark surgery
using his experience as a dental prosthetic surgeon.
He is in the process of submitting his own guide on how to 3D print
material for this surgery and a paper on Guided auricular implant replacement.

Find out more about Dr Domingue and get information about attending
dental mission trips with him at Implants Black and White facebook group OR at

Find him on instagram and follow his surgeries at: @implantdiplomate

This episode recorded live at Greater New York with the men behind The Dental Hacks podcast, Facebook group, Voices of Dentistry, Laminated 1992 book about social media and various tutorial videos about feeding farm animals. 

Sitting down with these two is always a delight and super informative for podcast newbies like us. 

Graciously sponsored by our new podcast partners at Dentsply Sirona. We are very excited for 2020 and all of the awesome episodes we will be able to bring your way with their support. 

In this episode Irene shares her first secret temp story about new Cavitron inserts with a twist, making them work efficiently in a Cavitron unit literally fabricated in 1985, the same year Irene was born. Is this really a thing? Are we not in 2020 and should we seriously still be using units that are held together with electrical tape? If this is happening to you PLEASE post a pic and tag us in it, are we alone or are there others out there suffering like Irene did on that very cold winters day. 

Slide into your docs emails with this link, a subtle hint that "it's time". 

Join Irene and Katrina next weekend at Voices of Dentistry and use promo code Toothordare to get your ticket (reg 997) for only $650. This event is epic and super fun, 11 hours of CE, lunch included both days, Friday night party and networking event among some of the coolest names in dentistry all hanging out in beautiful Arizona. 


Click here to teleport to the registration page. 

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The Tooth or Dare podcast officially welcomes Katrina as co-host recorded live at Greater New York dental meeting despite Irene calling it 3 other names. We chat about:
-Katrina's life from prepubescence through being a theatre nerd in high school all
the way to becoming a hygienist/level 1 sommelier
-Rapid-fire questions: airplane fart, fear of pooping pants in public, biggest accomplishment (wait for the bloopers at the end!) terrified to leave teaching position, left 9-year S.O.
-The wine industry is still a very male-dominated

Slide in to those DM's for your questions: 

Irene: @Toothlife.Irene on Instagram and Facebook

Katrina: @TheDentalWINEgenist on Instagram and Facebook

Podcast: @ToothorDare.Podcast on Instagram and Facebook

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This weeks episode was recorded live in Eleuthera Bahamas. 

Dedicated to the amazing men and woman who brought their true rockstar A game to treat the amazing people in the community. 

Irene went on a dental mission hosted by the GloGood foundation, Twice and Let Love Rule foundation. The Levine family and Lenny Kravitz have spent the last 5 years providing love and care to the local people of this beautiful place who have no access to local dental and medical care. 

The amalgamation of over 100 clinicians and volunteers assembled from all over the world to provide amazing smile transformations that truly warmed our hearts and frankly were life changing for me. 

To help this cause click on the links below to donate and make sure to follow along on their growth and journey literally changing smiles. 



@Twice @GloGoodFoundation

Cody: @Levicii

Julian: @Julianjameslevine

Dr. Jonathan Levine: @drjonlevine

A bittersweet announcement: Whitney aka @teethtalkgirl is retiring from co-hosting the podcast.  She sends warm gratitude to all of our supportive listeners and wants everyone to “keep spreading the happiness & positive toothy vibes” so for this episode we are highlighting some of the amazing guests we have had, happy memories and inspiration we have had over the last 12 months. 

 Whitney is handing over the co-hosting torch to Katrina Saunders aka @thedentalwinegenist!  

Welcome Katrina, we are excited to have you join the podcast and continue the tooth or dare podcast! 

ALSO... Tooth or Dare has been nominated for the best dental podcast of 2019! we need your votes. Please send in your vote to help the podcast reach number 1, currently in 3rd place!

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Ladies and gentlemen, Dental Peeps! This is a very special episode and we have some big news for you all but firstly we would like to thank our friends @Hu-Friedy for sponsoring this episode and all of the episodes Whitney and I have recorded in the past 12 months together!

I just want to take a moment to thank Hu-Friedy for creating an awesome community for hygienists. The Friends of HF community is growing so rapidly!

I've been having fun reading the latest group posts.
Big fan of the product recommendations group and the largest group there with 45k members about Hu-Points. Helping each other get higher rankings. I'm striving to be Canine Champion.
The highest ranking... and you get a 30K ultrasonic insert which is an amazing product.

Irene: I saw them make them when I did a factory tour. Each insert is hand made and inspected and tested at every phase of assembly. It’s a really amazing process peeps!

Other things you will find on the FOHF platform include:
Courses and Certifications
Connect with Pros and Peers

And you can access anywhere, anytime, Personalized just for you and with your Engagement earn Hu-Points for free stuff!

Visit to join the tribe!


Welcome to another episode of Tooth or Dare with Podcast! 

WE NEED YOUR VOTES Please click here to vote for us as the 2019 podcast of the year! 

This week Irene has dedicated this episode to Emily Boge! She's amazing! 

@Joycethedentist is amazing, Started her Instagram to grow her beautiful practice and since then has started a vlog, created an e-book for dentists AND now has a cute TikTok account! 

Visit her Instagram RIGHT HERE to follow her and read her feature in Incisal Edge Magazine as she made 40 under 40 in dentistry! 

Huge thanks to 3M for Sponsoring this week’s episode and giving us a cool spot to record live at CDA!This week's product spotlight was developed to help patients who suffer from xerostomia.

Irene wrote a cool scientific article in the Dental Economics Magazine in the November Issue that talks all about early identification of dry mouth and salivary gland dysfunction. 

3M offers a suite of products to tackle xerostomia from multiple angles. First, there is the 3M Xerostomia Relief Spray, which is a lipid-based solution designed to limit water loss, moisten, and lubricate the entire oral cavity.

This is a prescription product that can be dispensed directly out of the office or your doctor can write a prescription and send it directly to a specialty pharmacy. Many patients like to use Theramints, which are 100% xylitol-sweetened mints to stimulate their saliva throughout the day.

I strongly recommend high-risk patients have an in-office varnish with Vanish 5% sodium fluoride white varnish can be used every 3 to 6 months. Helps with sensitivity relief by releasing fluoride, calcium and phosphate for up to 24 hours.

 Lastly send a patient home with Clinpro 5000, a high-fluoride toothpaste, containing their patented functionalized tri-calcium phosphate. This can be prescribed for patients to use at least once a day for caries prevention.

To learn more about 3M’s suite of products to help with xerostomia, like Clinpro 5000, Theramints, Vanish Varnish and Xerostomia Relief Spray visit


Hey there dental peeps and for the RDH's out there thanks for tuning into another episode of the podcast! We are so thankful for you all! 

This episode is dedicated to our friend on Instagram aka @thewanderingtoothfairy. We love watching your passion for dentistry keep up the great work friend, so fun meeting you at CDA!

Our episode is sponsored by our friends @Hu-Friedy this week's featured product is the new HD Blackline mirror. Irene did a comparison video on her Instagram (CLICK HERE TO WATCH IT) showing the difference between the Blackline HD and a Rodium coated mirror.  Brighter, more ergonomic and less glare aka LIFE CHANGING. 

Want to register for Irene's Toronto Hu-Friedy Event? Click on the link below to register. It'll be tons of fun, try out some of the cool instruments shes demonstrated on her Instagram account and learn from the experts! Not to mention, you get instruments sharpened by the one and only @DiamondSharp! 


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This episode was recorded live at the Hu-Friedy booth at CDA, we had so much fun at the booth so thank you to Hu-Friedy for sharing your booth and doubling it as a recording space! 

This interview was with Dr.Chrystle Cu founder of CocoFloss 

She tells us all about how she started her business with her sister and how they are now killing the floss world and tradeshow world. Hiring her first employee and balancing the Dentists life with the Floss life! 

Thank you for sharing your story and for giving us floss alternatives to share with our patients! Make sure to follow them on Instagram and get their stuff in your practice! 


Hey there dental peeps and for the RDH's out there HAPPY DENTAL HYGIENE MONTH!

This episode is dedicated to our friend Summer Lewis aka boss babe and beautiful human. Thanks for being an inspiration to us all! 

Our episode is sponsored by our friends @Hu-Friedy and they are celebrating dental hygienists in the best way possible... WITH GIVEAWAYS! Check out their Instagram page for giveaways, one which ends TODAY Oct 17th- enter for a chance to win 3 Diamond Sharpening cards. Wear your purple on the 21st and post a pic to Instagram with the #showusyourpurple19 for a chance to win a trip to Whitney's home town of Chicago!

This episode is featuring the amazing Catrina Houston! aka @Catrina_houston on Instagram AND the podcaster behind @the.smileeffect Podcast

Catrina tells us about her podcast "turn pain into purpose" (the smile effect podcast) where she gets lots of her interview guest from goalcast (The best resource for advice, videos and motivation to help you realize your full potential.)

 On Facebook Catrina is the co-host of the molar report on facebook so check it out! 

As a writer for RDH MAG shes authored cool and inspiring articles like  "how high does a tree grow" linked HERE TO READ! Which Whitney said is one of her inspirations to start Teeth Talk Girl. Inspiring words from Catrina about always growing in the DH profession and the importance of "if you're not growing you're dying".  


Thanks everyone for tuning in! If you want to connect with us you can find us at the links below!

Irene aka @Toothlife.Irene on Instagram 

Whitney aka @Teethtalkgirl And on YouTube



Thank you dental peeps for tuning into another episode of The Tooth or Dare Podcast! This week we chat with the one and only Dr. Shana Hughes of @TheToothBooth! She's the Botox and filler QUEEN of Instagram sharing with us all the tips and tricks to fight this thing we call ageing. 

What are the ladies doing this week? @TeethTalkGirl is shooting some cool videos for you on her YouTube Channel and has revamped her website with an easy to use search option! See all your fav and new videos on her website ------> Teleport to the website here! 

Meanwhile @Toothlife.Irene is off to St. Johns Newfoundland to speak at the Canadian Dental Hygiene Association annual conference where she gets to cross off a #bucketlist item off her speaking goals list. She'll be streaming this LIVE on her Instagram Friday Morning! 

Thank you to our friends @Hu_Friedy for sponsoring another informative episode. This weeks highlighted instrument is the BRAND NEW HD Blackline Mirror - DIAMOND LIKE CARBON (DLC) COATED MIRROR! 

The durable black matte coating reduces the glare by up to 80% compared to a standard metal mirror head and handle. This helps to reduce strain and fatigue as the user does not need to adapt their viewing position due to unwanted shine.

The black color of the coating creates a distinct contrast between the instrument, the tooth and/or the surrounding tissue allowing for easy identification intraorally.

Whitney raps out some awesome stats about this product like:

113% reflection factor for exceptional image clarity. 38.5% brighter than rhodium coated mirror glass. 50% brighter than other front surface mirror glass. Hard to beat those stats! Brighter is always better! 

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Dr. Hughes is a wealth of knowledge and her sweet southern accent makes every word she says that much sweeter! Aside from her beautification tips like.. "how to prevent breakouts..." and "what pillow we should sleep on" Dr. Hughes is a really cool person. Her passions for dentistry drive deep into her evergrowing practice, when she's not drilling, filling or injection Dr. H has an adorable son that and a growing horse farm! 

Follow her on Instagram if you need to be reminded to wash your make brushes and whiten your teeth. Hang tight to see who does a Tooth or a Dare, it's going to be awesome! 


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